Parsing unfair but okay?

[YukikoKurosawa]

You are more than welcome to this opinion, but it doesn't negate the fact that the reason you are parsing lower is because those who are using those abilities when you are not. This isn't a matter of the tool being wrong, it's a matter of playstyle.

If someone could actually explain to me what they're useful for I would, until then, they're just button bloat to me. It's not just I think they're useless, it's the entire way SAM plays that makes me question why I would ever use those two abilities, they seem pointless in relation to the entire playstyle.

To put it into perspective, I have a much better comprehension of Mahjong than I do the usage of those two abilities. They have eternally perplexed me since I picked up this job and not a single guide has ever made me understand why I would not just see them as button bloat.

[Saraide]

If someone could actually explain to me what they're useful for I would, until then, they're just button bloat to me. It's not just I think they're useless, it's the entire way SAM plays that makes me question why I would ever use those two abilities, they seem pointless in relation to the entire playstyle.

To put it into perspective, I have a much better comprehension of Mahjong than I do the usage of those two abilities. They have eternally perplexed me since I picked up this job and not a single guide has ever made me understand why I would not just see them as button bloat.

Yea meiko only gives you a midare after 3 gcds instead of 8, however could that be useful.

[SaberMaxwell]

Without meikyo I cannot do kasha gekko yukikaze in a row for a quick midare.

[Seera1024]

I've never used and will never use Meikyo Shisui or Hagakure because I just have never seen the point of them, as far as I'm concerned they're just redundant and or useless. Yes I've watched guides, I still don't understand the point of those two abilities, they just don't make sense to me at all. They're not even on my bars since EW forced me to make more space.

Those seem to be the major reasons for my lower parses. Beyond that, some weaving mistakes. Probaly a few instances I got disrupted from my rotation for one reason or another.

Also it's knocking off points for me using LB3. The logs are severely knocking my performance down for a few issues that didn't affect how well I actually performed in the fight overall. I really just don't care. A few rotational issues aside, I didn't die, didn't fail any mechanics, and the boss died quickly. I don't have the energy to care about anything beyond that. I just don't care. I've never cared so little about anything in my entire life.

Meikyo Shisui would be useful if you knew an invuln phase was coming up quicker than you could get through the entire combo so you could get to your stronger attacks faster.

Hagakure would be useful if you weren't stacked on kenki during an above invuln phase but had a few sen. Useful I would imagine if your group's buff window was going to come up when the invuln phase was finished so that you could go into your stronger attacks during the buff window, especially if you had intentionally used more of the resource right before the invuln phase knowing you would be able to use Hagakure at least 3 times during the invuln phase.

And that's just random thinking from someone who's never touched Samurai so take what I said with a grain of salt.

As for LB3 fussing, like with all tools, it has it's weaknesses and limitations. Another instance where it's not perfect is if you have to use a low potancy skill or not attack due to mechanics, it will fuss no matter which option you pick. It's why the analyzer does put the stuff in timeline so you can get a feel for where in a fight something happened so you can look at it and figure out if it's something for you to work on or a limitation of the tool.

[BaconBits]

I've never used and will never use Meikyo Shisui or Hagakure because I just have never seen the point of them, as far as I'm concerned they're just redundant and or useless. Yes I've watched guides, I still don't understand the point of those two abilities, they just don't make sense to me at all. They're not even on my bars since EW forced me to make more space.

Those seem to be the major reasons for my lower parses. Beyond that, some weaving mistakes. Probaly a few instances I got disrupted from my rotation for one reason or another.

Also it's knocking off points for me using LB3. The logs are severely knocking my performance down for a few issues that didn't affect how well I actually performed in the fight overall. I really just don't care. A few rotational issues aside, I didn't die, didn't fail any mechanics, and the boss died quickly. I don't have the energy to care about anything beyond that. I just don't care. I've never cared so little about anything in my entire life.

Two of the most important skills in your repertoire goes completely unused and you wonder why you're dealing low damage as a Samurai?

[Brownondorf]

I've never used and will never use Meikyo Shisui or Hagakure because I just have never seen the point of them, as far as I'm concerned they're just redundant and or useless. Yes I've watched guides, I still don't understand the point of those two abilities, they just don't make sense to me at all. They're not even on my bars since EW forced me to make more space.

Those seem to be the major reasons for my lower parses. Beyond that, some weaving mistakes. Probaly a few instances I got disrupted from my rotation for one reason or another.

Also it's knocking off points for me using LB3. The logs are severely knocking my performance down for a few issues that didn't affect how well I actually performed in the fight overall. I really just don't care. A few rotational issues aside, I didn't die, didn't fail any mechanics, and the boss died quickly. I don't have the energy to care about anything beyond that. I just don't care. I've never cared so little about anything in my entire life.

You are surprised that you are parsing low but yet you admit that you aren't using one of, if not, the most important skill (meikyo) and hagakure? Thats like a Sage not using his Kardia or a Warrior never using inner release...
And you think using LB3 magically make you parse low?
Are you for real?

[YukikoKurosawa]

Without meikyo I cannot do kasha gekko yukikaze in a row for a quick midare.

Meikyo Shisui would be useful if you knew an invuln phase was coming up quicker than you could get through the entire combo so you could get to your stronger attacks faster.

Hagakure would be useful if you weren't stacked on kenki during an above invuln phase but had a few sen. Useful I would imagine if your group's buff window was going to come up when the invuln phase was finished so that you could go into your stronger attacks during the buff window, especially if you had intentionally used more of the resource right before the invuln phase knowing you would be able to use Hagakure at least 3 times during the invuln phase.

Ok that makes sense actually. Just tested with them on training dummy and I see the usage now. Though, Hagakure seems very situational, and my lack of use of it not likely to be the reason for my green parses.

Also, in regards to LB3, it's extremely stupid if I'm losing parses over it. It doesn't break my combos to use so it shouldn't matter. Though, now I see why there's always dps in my groups who refuse to LB even when it's perfectly reasonable to do so.

[YukikoKurosawa]

Thing is they arent.

Then why should I care? If it matters it should be in the game. If it genuinely does matter, than it's bad design to not have it ingame. Yet nowhere does the game include parsing tools. Nowhere does the game suggest I need them to understand how to play, and it does have multiple tutorials and a ingame guides. Yet nowhere does parsing exist officially. In fact, they ban you for having the tools to see them. I'll care about parsing the second it's an official ingame tool, otherwise, it's irrelevant. And if someone ingame tells me to show them my parses, then they can enjoy their ban.

If I wanted to play a game where I must rely on third party tools to actually play the game than I'd be playing World of Warcatft (Property of Microsoft).

[Seera1024]

Ok that makes sense actually. Just tested with them on training dummy and I see the usage now. Though, Hagakure seems very situational, and my lack of use of it not likely to be the reason for my green parses.

Also, in regards to LB3, it's extremely stupid if I'm losing parses over it. It doesn't break my combos to use so it shouldn't matter. Though, now I see why there's always dps in my groups who refuse to LB even when it's perfectly reasonable to do so.

It's a dip in DPS that any smart static leader will be able to go "ah, that's why the drop there" and will move on and not use that dip against you solely because you used the LB3. If you use your LB3 in the middle of your high burst phase, the LB3 could lower your DPS. So wait until the end of the burst phase unless you believe the boss will die before you get it off otherwise. And then maybe it won't ding you or as much.

As for others not using it, it simply could be that they normally play a caster DPS or tank or heal and are on a melee class they haven't played in a while and forgot they can. Or they got absorbed in their rotation and forgot to use the LB3. And if you're a melee and the other DPS are either ranged or caster, they're likely expecting you to LB3. Heck even if there are other melees. They may be thinking you'll LB3. I primarily play Black Mage so my LB usage is mainly an LB1 trash pulls and not the LB3 - though I will take it if offered.

[YukikoKurosawa]

It's a dip in DPS that any smart static leader will be able to go "ah, that's why the drop there" and will move on and not use that dip against you solely because you used the LB3. If you use your LB3 in the middle of your high burst phase, the LB3 could lower your DPS. So wait until the end of the burst phase unless you believe the boss will die before you get it off otherwise. And then maybe it won't ding you or as much.

As for others not using it, it simply could be that they normally play a caster DPS or tank or heal and are on a melee class they haven't played in a while and forgot they can. Or they got absorbed in their rotation and forgot to use the LB3. And if you're a melee and the other DPS are either ranged or caster, they're likely expecting you to LB3. Heck even if there are other melees. They may be thinking you'll LB3. I primarily play Black Mage so my LB usage is mainly an LB1 trash pulls and not the LB3 - though I will take it if offered.

I always LB even if I'm a Black Mage, unless we need a tank or healer LB, or if I just feel like being generous and letting another dps have it. I once had a party member in an alliance raid, after I used it on the first boss, tell me I should never use it ever as a BLM because it does marginally less dps than melee LB3.

I just said "K". Then did it again the next boss. I think I used BLM LB3 every single boss that run (we never needed a mass rez or defensive). And yet, we still downed every boss with no wipes or problems at all. What miniscule difference between BLM LB3 and melee LB3 is not worth caring about. Dps LB3 is pretty much just for lulz, the only time LB3 matters is when you need the healer or tank LB.