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  1. #81
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    Wynn's Avatar
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    Aedan Yarborough
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    funny is...its a waste of time to do that lol, in the time you wasted trying to get sweat to proc, you coulda gathered more times for more exp then you waited to get in that single hit(and you woulda had more materials)
    Well sweat of brow was a bonus if it proc'd, but guardian aspect was on the whole time. You would just activate it at the crystal so it was extra xp for the duration of the leve. (up to 30 minutes.) You just have to purposely miss the special material whenever it tries to come up up until the very end.

    EDIT: (Need to complete my thoughts before hitting post LOL) Now that I think about it, that doesn't sound at all like what Vedis described. The guardian aspect trick still required that you bounce between nodes as they have a set attempt limit.
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  2. #82
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    Onion Lotion
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    funny is...its a waste of time to do that lol, in the time you wasted trying to get sweat to proc, you coulda gathered more times for more exp then you waited to get in that single hit(and you woulda had more materials)
    and you probly wasted enough time to lose some of your exp bonus for quick completion
    have you seen this


    Sweat of brow and scroll, this 3 times is worth the effort
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  3. #83
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    LemmingKingXXX's Avatar
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    Jho Stumps
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    which would apply nicely if the proc rate of SoB wasn't so damned low
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by LemmingKingXXX View Post
    which would apply nicely if the proc rate of SoB wasn't so damned low
    When I use it, I don't put any other ability on my bar. It seems to proc rather regularly that way.
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  5. #85
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    I've done the exact same thing since I acquired the ability, and though I have no hard data to support it, from 1.19 on it sure did seem like the proc rate dropped, and this is a comparison born from leveling FSH to 50 prior to that patch and MIN and BTN to mid 40's after
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  6. #86
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    Bye bye turbo craft bots!
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  7. #87
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    Abauge Decebalus
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    yeah, i reported it of course

    interesting fact though, i have seen another bot that runs gathering out anywhere too, and it has a bad habit of glitching(character will continuously teleport over and over as he takes out his axe/hatchet) until he starts mining/logging a node, and then, he is at least 20-30 yards away by the time he starts to actualy mine/log it.

    more interesting, its the same shell, different people, every time i see this happen, some may call it some sort of lag, but there is no coincidence its the same shell, and only people in that shell every time i see it, and that im not the only one who has witnessed it coming only from them
    I have seen this also, someone mining from very far away on every node. I obviously asked him how he was doing that but got no response. I thought i was lagging, but every other miner on the same nodes was normal, except that guy.
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  8. #88
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    UmJammerSully's Avatar
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    Bam Sully
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    according to what we have been told by reps, what you are doing is actualy considered illegal

    if you are not at your computer, you are afk leveling/botting basicaly which is against tos

    this change is aimed at people like you
    You actually believe that it's against TOS to play the game without looking at the screen? You're going to have to point me in the direction of where in the rules it says that as I'm a tad unconvinced to say the least.
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  9. #89
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    Aedan Yarborough
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    Quote Originally Posted by LemmingKingXXX View Post
    I've done the exact same thing since I acquired the ability, and though I have no hard data to support it, from 1.19 on it sure did seem like the proc rate dropped, and this is a comparison born from leveling FSH to 50 prior to that patch and MIN and BTN to mid 40's after
    You might be right. They did bump xp gain for harvesters so maybe they lowered the proc rate to compensate? Not sure.
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  10. #90
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    you guys really have no clue as to how the bots even operate. most of the bots that are in use hook into and monitor the games memory address. the bots aren't as dumb as you think. its going to see that it will stand up or be interrupted. and it will just go back to crafting via the same processes that any player would. some of the bots in use are very complicated pieces of software.

    so this change doses absolutely nothing to botters

    bot always adapt. you can never get rid of them
    any measures meant o punish bots dosent it just hurts the player
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