Paladin weakest Tank now

[Undeadfire]

Ranged Advantage or not, I couldn't get close to my Gnb raid mate parses 1st week Savage clear.

Ranged Advantage is irrelevant, Paladin has no burst, lack of potency in Atonement screwing the jobs normal rotation, and it's magic cast need Skill Speed change.

Honestly Paladin needs a tune up with GCDs moved to O-GCDs, or cut, this allow FoF back on 60s instead of minimum 61s, or 63-65. Then specific attacks can be potency boosted putting it on par with the 3.

[eagledorf]

What really bothers me is not that SE made PLD a whooping 10% weaker than other tanks. It's not that they're repeating the mistakes of Heavenward with no self-reflection.

It's the total lack of response from the dev team. Healers and tanks got zero fixes for the many very real issues in balance and playability in 6.05 while most of the DPS jobs with problems got at least some minor tweaks. What that tells me is SE doesn't care about you of you play a tank or healer, if you want them to care play a DPS. And they wonder why tanks are so rare they needed to make alliance raids solo tank parties.

[AziraSyuren]

Tanks have 30 minute queues when alliance raids are new. Tanking being unpopular is a meme. It's just not true. And alliance raids, of all things, doesn't illustrate that point very well.

Tanking might have its issues but none of it is reflected in how popular they are.

[Absurdity]

Ranged Advantage or not, I couldn't get close to my Gnb raid mate parses 1st week Savage clear.

And that is exactly what I said. By the time you have optimized PLD for a fight the other tanks have probably optimized it as well, leaving you back at square one, there is no ranged advantage.

[CKNovel]

Ranged Advantage is irrelevant

Been saying that for years, we needed 6.0 SMN and 6.0 PLD to acknowledge that.
Ranged tax can exist but regardless it remains irrelevant and is currently too high while it should be very low, 50 DPS top as this is what you will lose over the Ranged attack you will do or the 1/2 GCDs you will miss during mechanics.

Has someone said, DRK can AFK a whole minute and still outdps PLD.
I've been on GNB and got no loot the 2 first week, our PLD grabbed the tomestone weapon but still couldn't compete with GNB. 20 ilvl difference on a main-hand weapon and PLD still can't reach the other tanks.

You're still putting the same amount of work as other jobs but you're still robbed because you are slightly more comfy. And that comfyness is irrelevant 80% of the time.

[RatCopter]

You have no idea how much I envy you PLD players. A well designed class that's (apparently) fun to play, who's only problem is being the lowest damage tank, who's only real issue can be very simply fixed by minor potency adjustments which, by all accounts, will be coming in the next patch?

If DRK was in that state, I wouldn't play anything else.

[Mortex]

Tanks have 30 minute queues when alliance raids are new. Tanking being unpopular is a meme. It's just not true. And alliance raids, of all things, doesn't illustrate that point very well.

Tanking might have its issues but none of it is reflected in how popular they are.

I mean you need 3 tanks for 24 people. Ofc it takes longer when a alliance raid comes fresh out just because all player that took a break come back and start doing the fight with whatever job they like. I also have too wait 30 mins as a dps player on new 24 man release just because more people like too go unga bunga.

[Mortex]

You have no idea how much I envy you PLD players. A well designed class that's (apparently) fun to play, who's only problem is being the lowest damage tank, who's only real issue can be very simply fixed by minor potency adjustments which, by all accounts, will be coming in the next patch?

If DRK was in that state, I wouldn't play anything else.

It feels nice until you realize you have too skip a atonement charge or you miss 2,5 seconds on the FoF window and if you do it more then once you are always out of the buff windows.

[Undeadfire]

You have no idea how much I envy you PLD players. A well designed class that's (apparently) fun to play, who's only problem is being the lowest damage tank, who's only real issue can be very simply fixed by minor potency adjustments which, by all accounts, will be coming in the next patch?

If DRK was in that state, I wouldn't play anything else.

We're in a reverse way vs Drk.

Drk is super good in most content, but isn't fun.

Pld is fun but isn't good in most content.

[Seife]

Drk is bad in dungeons
Drk is mediocre in normal raid content
Drk is okay in extrials
Drk is good in savage raids

Pld is good in dungeons
Pld is good in normal raid content
Pld is okay in extrials
Pld is bad in savage raids

Both classes need fixes. Pld needs more dmg and a rotation that lines up with raid buffs. Drk needs mitgation and needs a better invul.