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  1. #311
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    Imora Dal'syn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    And once again that matters zero. It just covers SE for stuff they don't catch.
    ESRB flat out states that online interactions are not covered by the rating.

    it's on the game box too, if you buy a physical copy.

    So the point stands.
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  2. #312
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    Imora Dal'syn
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    While I agree with most of what you said, I'm not sure you understand what a Karen is.

    Karens are overly entitled and feel they deserve some level of service or goods that they do not. If anything, this is more akin to being a tattle-tail.

    People are not reporting because its some gray zone. It is explicitly against what Yoshida wants in the game and he has been quoted for saying as much.



    Doesn't matter if it's "hurting the game" or not. Yoshida has asked people to keep things behind closed doors. Publicly viewable "carrds" are not being kept behind closed doors.

    For me personally, I have kids that play this game and know other kids that play. I trust them to enjoy the game, but if my kids saw a link for a venue/party, and opened it to reveal a 1/2 naked man yeah I would be unhappy.

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    I wouldn't blink an eye if suddenly the entire brothel network were insta-banned... but I'm also fine with letting things be- the "Don't talk about fight club" is a good way to do it. As is, we constantly see people complaining "omg I got banned guyz! wtf! so gray zone what I was doing wasn't wrong" when they're clearly against ToS, Yoshida's wishes and have blatant sexual innuendo on their "card" outside of game.
    To be fair, stepping foot into the cities is likely to get you a half naked, or fully naked man to begin with.

    I know PLENTY of people that play male characters that wear skimpy glams.
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  3. #313
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    Larirawiel's Avatar
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    Larirawiel Caennalys
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    Quote Originally Posted by DerpyWhiskers View Post
    Maybe OP finally realized that using Party Finder to advertise their ERP hoes that make more in an hour of typing than we do in 1 month of hard work and farming isn't the best idea lol. I still say it's dumb to report it, but some of us non-neckbeards would like Party Finder to be for actual gaming things, and they can find some other way to earn 1M gil per hour besides clogging up our hunts and fates.
    AFAIR there is no restriction that the PF party must do PvE or PvP content afterwards. If the devs do not want that the PF is used to create/find partys which do not do PvE or PvP then they should restrict the party finder to it.

    Cheers
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  4. #314
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    Zanelle Solainteau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    ESRB flat out states that online interactions are not covered by the rating.

    it's on the game box too, if you buy a physical copy.

    So the point stands.
    No, it is to cover SE not you. You made no point at all.
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  5. #315
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    FFXIV is like a public park. You can risk it and do stuff you are not suppose to do, but if you get caught you are at fault, no one else. Right now there are two options: get better at hiding what you are doing from others or go to were whatever you are doing is allowed.
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  6. #316
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    To be fair, stepping foot into the cities is likely to get you a half naked, or fully naked man to begin with.

    I know PLENTY of people that play male characters that wear skimpy glams.
    I’m not sure what your point here is. You meant to respond to me right? Not someone else?

    A character wearing things in game, using glamours made by the game devs, is far and away different than a card with art depicting a naked man with censored bits.
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    Last edited by kaynide; 01-18-2022 at 08:06 PM.

  7. #317
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    What gets me is the fact the first sentence of the e-mail says "Harassment Violations". That means it couldn't had been the PF itself, but him or whoever got banned got into some heated words with someone and started harassing folks.

    So someone's gotta be lying here or the GM is a fail. I don't think this has anything to do with the PF being written that way at all, but the exchanges afterward.
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  9. #318
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jybril View Post
    What gets me is the fact the first sentence of the e-mail says "Harassment Violations". That means it couldn't had been the PF itself, but him or whoever got banned got into some heated words with someone and started harassing folks.

    So someone's gotta be lying here or the GM is a fail. I don't think this has anything to do with the PF being written that way at all, but the exchanges afterward.
    Not sure but disrupting the gameplay of others could fall under harassment and would make sense in this case.
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    Kaska Onerys
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    ESRB flat out states that online interactions are not covered by the rating.

    it's on the game box too, if you buy a physical copy.

    So the point stands.
    Do people seriously believe the ESRB is there to protect players? That's insanity.

    If it did no one would ever get banned for saying racial slurs or other nasty things.

    It is there solely to protect the company from litigation, and thus they must be shown to enforce it whenever possible. Or they will be drawn and quartered in various markets that decide to target their business interests. The politics at play here require some perspective outside of shout chat.
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    Anhra Nefaris
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    I can't currently check, since i am posting from a phone, but if youre from the EU OP,
    you can insist on having a GM tell you the exact reason why you got banned in the first place (since it is considered witholding personal data under EU law Article 15 of the GDPR). It usually takes a while if you contact one about it, but they will provide you the exact line with reasoning that got you suspended.
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