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    Sophie Miret-njer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    Well time to polish off that creative writing degree and get to making side cash. Just got to set my dignity to the side. No Lalafell, and 100$ per story.
    If you ever read through some of it, I think you would find most of it is not penned by someone with a writing degree.
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    Paper Wait
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhais View Post
    If you ever read through some of it, I think you would find most of it is not penned by someone with a writing degree.
    All the more reason for them to corner the market of FFXIV character fanfics. They already have quality ahead of the competition.
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    Van Arn
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    Goblin
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhais View Post
    If you ever read through some of it, I think you would find most of it is not penned by someone with a writing degree.
    I don’t think low quality writing is a barrier for success in storytelling. Look at Stephenie Meyer.

    Granted, I think it really comes down to how you measure success.
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    This thread is still going on? It should be obvious by now that asking the forums for clarification is not the thing to do. TOS was broken, it's SEs rules just deal with it.
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    Marshmallow Puff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkhorn
    Especially if there is no other explanation given as to why the suspension was put on other than to 'read the TOS'.
    How about actually reading the Tos? If you take the time to read the policies under Obscene/Indecent expressions, you will see that it covers ERP and invitations. The PF public invitation to the venue falls under the second paragraph quoted below. The FC of OP openly offers erp/brothel services and the advertisement was suggestive.

    Direct quote from the policy:
    In the case of role-playing involving mildly sexual expressions (such as erotic role-playing) with a consenting group of two or more players, if it is conducted in a private area, it will not be considered a violation unless a report is made.

    However, if you encourage or invite a player to participate in such role-play without being certain of their consent, there is a high possibility that you will be reported and penalized. Please be very careful.

    Edit:
    Finally, on top of that excerpt, I totally understand SE acting like they do when it comes to open public invitations to an Erp FC or event held by such an FC in a game that is accessible to children age 13+.

    By launching public invitations through PF, curious minors could easily join and you wouldn’t know. Reading the OP’s venue website, some of the stuff OP’s FC proposes is downright cybersex. An adult having cybersex with a minor can be a serious criminal offence in many jurisdictions (and no, you don’t even need a camera, it can be written material only). Just saying “I posted that it was for 18+“ is not sufficient. So yeah if SE announces the game to be 13+, they must take reasonable precautions to protect minors and limit their exposure to such things.

    There also this tidbit in the TOS
    SQUARE ENIX MAY SUSPEND, TERMINATE, MODIFY, OR DELETE FFXIV SERVICE ACCOUNTS, CHARACTERS, VIRTUAL GOODS, OR THE SERVICE ALTOGETHER, AT ANY TIME FOR ANY REASON OR FOR NO REASON, WITH OR WITHOUT NOTICE OR LIABILITY TO YOU.
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    Last edited by Toutatis; 01-22-2022 at 01:13 AM.

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    Dal S'ta
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    They are allowed in your 18+ marked event because the game is, in totality, rated 13+.
    The 'Teen' rating' holds in the United States and other parts of North America. The ESRB holds little sway around the rest of the world. In most of Asia this game is rated 15+, in most of Europe it is rated 16+.

    Those ratings give wide latitude to retailers to limit sales of a game, but that's not their main purpose. The game rating system is a Band-Aid that pretends there is no need for policing video games by law because, see, game producers are voluntarily suggesting age ranges for which a game is suitable, despite not knowing anything about your children or what you'd allow them to play. I'm pretty sure that a 10 year old with a credit card can purchase M-rated games via Steam (used as an example only), as there is no way for Steam to verify your age, other than to ask and pretend that's enough.

    Please keep this in mind as you attempt arguments using "for the kids".

    This game was never designed "for the kids", although SE is perfectly welcome to police their game in any way they choose. There are plenty of other venues, non-RP venues by the way, where interactions between players are both unregulated and possibly dangerous "for the kids".
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    The 'Teen' rating' holds in the United States and other parts of North America. The ESRB holds little sway around the rest of the world. In most of Asia this game is rated 15+, in most of Europe it is rated 16+.

    Those ratings give wide latitude to retailers to limit sales of a game, but that's not their main purpose. The game rating system is a Band-Aid that pretends there is no need for policing video games by law because, see, game producers are voluntarily suggesting age ranges for which a game is suitable, despite not knowing anything about your children or what you'd allow them to play. I'm pretty sure that a 10 year old with a credit card can purchase M-rated games via Steam (used as an example only), as there is no way for Steam to verify your age, other than to ask and pretend that's enough.

    Please keep this in mind as you attempt arguments using "for the kids".

    This game was never designed "for the kids", although SE is perfectly welcome to police their game in any way they choose. There are plenty of other venues, non-RP venues by the way, where interactions between players are both unregulated and possibly dangerous "for the kids".
    My point was not semantics regarding the age rating. My point was that the game devs want to attract a certain demographic - ideally as wide a net/as inclusive as possible within the laws of certain countries, and will enforce a very PG-13-esque game strictly rather than risk potential banning from an entire country, such as Australia.
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