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  1. #31
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    Liam_Harper's Avatar
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I like them less than other tanks.

    It's the unpopular opinion and it sounds better to say "I don't mind, I just do my job and it's fine" but in terms of ease of healing I'd rather be honest than dig for likes or whatever. They're not that bad in dungeons, although WAR gets Raw Intuition much earlier than TBN and on wall pulls Dark Mind and Missionary aren't really doing anything. TBN is also weaker than flat mitigation or life leech on big pulls.

    In raids they're fine, but any Savage boss where immuning a tankbuster is a good strat, a DRK is a downside. Their immune consumes a lot of healer resources that could be used elsewhere. Even with WHM, you hold their best single target oGCD hostage.

    It's minor things really and I don't hate having a DRK or would ever exclude one, I just like the other tanks more. As a class I fully support DRK getting more love, they've been neglected for years.
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  2. #32
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    Risvertasashi's Avatar
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    The only DRK I really play with is quite good at her job, often being less squishy in dungeons that most pug tanks of any variety and also quite quick to adapt to mistakes in raid settings, for example giving someone that doesn't get healed TBN before the next raid hit and sometimes even using LD which, even with the amount of healing needed, has prevented wipes. So, I can't really say that I'm unhappy with it.

    Now, in the hands of the average player is another story...
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  3. #33
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    Thea Sitori
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 72
    DRK has TBN, the strongest non-immunity cooldown in the game. Many randos out there don't abuse it enough. 25% of your HP, and breaking it gives you Dark Arts. Sometimes healers over mitigate it in raids and that hurts their damage, its harder to not break in dungeons as long as they don't overheal like crazy.

    I recently leveled WAR to 90, had several healers die to dungeon bosses and I just solo'd them to the finish and/or throw Nascent on the only alive DPS and they can raise themselves to full by doing damage. I think I only ever died once to any wall-to-wall pull. I know I can't expect that with the other tanks. DRK has sick damage though as long as you press buttons, and this savage raid tier DRK is in that awesome category because of all the magic damage.
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  4. #34
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    kejakalope's Avatar
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    Calith Thrace
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Brownondorf View Post
    When running Expert roulette as Sage i don't see much differences between tanks as long as they know how to press their cooldown honestly...
    As Sage it doesn't make much difference wich tank you get since you only heal with Ogcds while dpsing anyway
    This, as well. By Expert, DRK's lack of self-heals is more than made up for by going through trash packs like a chainsaw with Shadowbringer. More DPS = less heals required.

    It also helps to know what your own kit can do as a healer, and where the nasty pulls are, which people didn't in the first couple weeks of the expansion. If you know to drop Haima going into that last pull before Anima, you really shouldn't have any problems-- and even if the tank kinda sucks, Panhaima makes a good second line of defense. You shouldn't need either of them during the boss fight itself, after all, even if Panhaima's nice for the beam fountain.
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  5. #35
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    Calith Thrace
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    Balmung
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    Reaper Lv 90
    I will say (as both a healer and someone who also plays DRK) that Living Dead sucks and needs a rework.
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  6. #36
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    Sunhwapark's Avatar
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    Dear Boy
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    Have no bad feelings about DRK.
    The only thing that I do not enjoy is the fact that Living Dead is still an annoying resource vacuum for SCH to deal with though, fine on other healers though.
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  7. #37
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    Kaska Onerys
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    All Jobs 90 here.

    I had no problem healing DRKs or mass pulling as DRK.
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  8. #38
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I mained DRK in Shadowbringers and I can tell you that they needed the least healing of all in that expansion, and any DRK that needed much healing at all was probably just not playing well (not using TBN) or had a very low item level. TBN caused tank busters to do no damage at all and was like a constant Hallowed Ground against trash. Since it's not changed much I doubt it could be that different now.
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    Last edited by Jeeqbit; 01-17-2022 at 02:27 AM.

  9. #39
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    kejakalope's Avatar
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    Calith Thrace
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    Balmung
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    I mained DRK in Shadowbringers and I can tell you that they needed the least healing of all in that expansion, and any DRK that needed much healing at all was probably just not playing well (not using TBN) or had a very low item level. TBN caused tank busters to do no damage at all and was like a constant Hallowed Ground against trash.
    Yep. I suspect once our item level starts rising, this will return to being the norm, particularly as we now functionally have three Reprisals on deck to pad it with at all times.
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  10. #40
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    Tolo Rewd
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    Spriggan
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    Summoner Lv 100
    I have a problem with players, not DRK. The majority of DRKs I get in DF do not use TBN, which is frankly appalling.
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