Still the Warrior of Light in 6.x and beyond? [Spoilers through ShB]

[Enkidoh]

I do not believe this is what they said. They’ve definitely about how the main cast will change but that’s not anything as solid as that.

Not to mention they’ve stressed over and over that while this may be the end of the Hydaelyn and Zodiark saga, it will just be a new saga in the same world. Itll be a big change, but not drastic as some people are saying.

Right, I see post 6.0's story being more like FFXI where after the second expansion Chains of Promathia the story moved to other areas of the world with new NPCs (and new storylines) but occasionally linked back to the 'Middle Lands' and NPCs previously introduced (and eventually had everything tied together in a nice little finale under Rhapsodies of Vana'diel). I don't see Yoshi just killing everyone off to make a clean slate moving forward - the whole 'Final Chapter' thing is just the usual overblown theatrics by Emet... again.

[Vyrerus]

Right, I see post 6.0's story being more like FFXI where after the second expansion Chains of Promathia the story moved to other areas of the world with new NPCs (and new storylines) but occasionally linked back to the 'Middle Lands' and NPCs previously introduced (and eventually had everything tied together in a nice little finale under Rhapsodies of Vana'diel). I don't see Yoshi just killing everyone off to make a clean slate moving forward - the whole 'Final Chapter' thing is just the usual overblown theatrics by Emet... again.

Still waiting on that boat ride with Lyon, even though I sold my soul to Odin to save Luzaf's so that Aphmau would start crushing on me, in spite of my soul being scoured by BLU's alchemy procedure.

Also, all the work done to reconstitute Lilisette's entire being, and she goes off to save Lilith's world...


By the time I met Arciela all I was thinking was, "Ok, how's this one going to break my heart?"

[tinythinker]

Was thinking about this from Yoshi P's New Year's letter...

Now then, as its title suggests, Endwalker winds up the tale that has been woven since 1.0. However, FFXIV itself is far from over, and we've already begun creating new journeys for all you Warriors of Light─or adventurers, rather─to embark upon!

What do you think? Have we moved beyond "Warrior of Light"? Is that a relic from the Hydaelyn-Zodiark era? Not to be forgotten, but like something from a box of items from your travels.

[Enkidoh]

EW Spoilers ahead

The player character will probably always be known by the general public as the WoL simply due to their immense fame in, you know, saving the world (and of course, as the WoD in the First), but I think we've come full circle back to 1.0 where the WoL didn't exist - the player was just a very talented adventurer powerful in the Echo. The fact the Scions put on a show suppossedly publically disbanding, in order so they could continue to work clandistinely in the background seems to lean towards this (the Scions' pre-Calamity predecessor the Path of the Twelve was far more secretive and few knew they existed), something I've long actually advocated, as being the world's 'fix-it' team just brought more problems than it offered solutions, not the least it resulted in their safety and security being threatened repeatedly.

Certainly the WoL will no longer be 'Hydaelyn's champion', seeing as Venat/Hydaelyn is finally having a long-overdue rest in the Lifestream with Hythlo and Mr Grumpy, but the WoL still possesses the Echo, and still possesses the Blessing and Crystals of Light as well (that didn't just disappear with Hydaelyn's dissimination) - they're the most powerful warrior in the world, there will continue to be no shortage of challenges that they will face. And ironically it's totally in keeping with the will of the original owner of their soul (Azem) - whose whole job description was travelling the world, helping people with their problems, studying cultures, slaying monsters, defeating villians and well, being pretty damn marvellous, sounds very much like the life of an Adventurer no?

Which I'm certain is why Emet namedropped all those mysterious 'interesting places' in Hydaelyn we just had to visit too - he was nudging us back into a Seventh Astral Era version of Azem's job. (12000 years late perhaps but still, better late than never I guess ).

[tinythinker]

EW Spoilers ahead

The player character will probably always be known by the general public as the WoL simply due to their immense fame in, you know, saving the world (and of course, as the WoD in the First), but I think we've come full circle back to 1.0 where the WoL didn't exist - the player was just a very talented adventurer powerful in the Echo. The fact the Scions put on a show suppossedly publically disbanding, in order so they could continue to work clandistinely in the background seems to lean towards this (the Scions' pre-Calamity predecessor the Path of the Twelve was far more secretive and few knew they existed), something I've long actually advocated, as being the world's 'fix-it' team just brought more problems than it offered solutions, not the least it resulted in their safety and security being threatened repeatedly.

Certainly the WoL will no longer be 'Hydaelyn's champion', seeing as Venat/Hydaelyn is finally having a long-overdue rest in the Lifestream with Hythlo and Mr Grumpy, but the WoL still possesses the Echo, and still possesses the Blessing and Crystals of Light as well (that didn't just disappear with Hydaelyn's dissimination) - they're the most powerful warrior in the world, there will continue to be no shortage of challenges that they will face. And ironically it's totally in keeping with the will of the original owner of their soul (Azem) - whose whole job description was travelling the world, helping people with their problems, studying cultures, slaying monsters, defeating villians and well, being pretty damn marvellous, sounds very much like the life of an Adventurer no?

Which I'm certain is why Emet namedropped all those mysterious 'interesting places' in Hydaelyn we just had to visit too - he was nudging us back into a Seventh Astral Era version of Azem's job. (12000 years late perhaps but still, better late than never I guess ).

That's what I meant by not forgetting it but putting it aside. The peoples of the New World and those on the other shards would have no frame of reference for a "warrior of light", and our characters have gone beyond the light/darkness dichotomy. Sure, those realms that have seen the most our work, particularly Eorzea, may be used to that title, but as you say in all of these new places we will just be an adventurer with some surprising talents.

Thus, for the writing, we have transcended or moved beyond the WoL concept for future adventures. It's a title some characters will always recall or use, but there will almost certainly be more titles and new ways of exploring our characters. We've already become the "Warrior of Darkness" on the First. It will be interesting to see how we fit into the lives and narratives of the places our travels and problem-solving will take us next.

[EdwinLi]

I honestly expect we maybe called Adventurer for a while during Season 2 early years story since we will be heading into unknown regions where WoL's fame and events of Season 1 never reached so for them anything involving Season 1 are unknown events and WoL is just another adventurer from Eorzea on a expedition into their region.

WoL's fame only extends to current regions because each one has always made contact with Eorzea in some form but most of the unknown regions may not even get a speck of information about what went on in Season 1 due to how little or no contact they have with Eorzea and regions that do make contact with Eorzea.

[Shookbeast]

Alphinaud: (Gestures grandly to WOL) “This, is your Warrior Of Light!”

Unimpressed Meracydian: “Well, I didn't vote for them.”

Alphinaud: (Flustered) “You don't vote for Warriors Of Light!”

Unimpressed Meracydian: “Well, how did they become ‘Warrior Of Light’ then?”

WOL: (Puts hand to chin, and ponders)

Alphinaud: “The Lady in the Lake - er, crystal…”

(Loporrits begin to hum)

Alphinaud: “...The lady in the lake that’s also in a crystal - her arm clad in the purest shimmering vanya silk, reached out to the warrior, blessing them - to signify by Divine Providence that they were to be her Champion.”

(humming stops)

Alphinaud: “I… was asleep when it happened - but that’s how!”

WOL: (Nods)

Unimpressed Meracydian: “Listen. Strange women hiding in crystals distributing hexes is no basis for a system of government.”

Alphinaud: “Be quiet! It’s not government! We tried that already - and a man lost his arm!”

Unimpressed Meracydian: “Well, you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some sparkly tart threw a spell at you!”

Alphinaud: “Shut up!”

Unimpressed Meracydian: “I mean, if I went 'round saying I was an emperor just because some glinty bint had lobbed a conjuration at me, they'd put me away!”

Alphinaud: “Shut up, will you? Shut up!”

Unimpressed Meracydian: “Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system.”

[Onshinn]

Please WoL deserve a HOLIDAY. We just fought a spoil brat and a NEET Prince who’d got nothing better to do IN space on a friggin shinryu’s back and probably being served sh** tonnes of carrots there and back again… Imagine holding back in a spaceship trying not to kill a loporitts to make a good rabbit pie; for the entire trip! Hmmhrph A Holiday a good steak and a chilled glass of gin tyvm.

[Absimiliard]

and still possesses the Blessing and Crystals of Light as well (that didn't just disappear with Hydaelyn's dissimination).

Can you provide a citation for this? As many understood it, Hydaelyn's blessing very much died with her. The perceived implication being that the Warrior of Light is now powerful enough on their own to not need it anymore.

[KariTheFox]

Can you provide a citation for this? As many understood it, Hydaelyn's blessing very much died with her. The perceived implication being that the Warrior of Light is now powerful enough on their own to not need it anymore.

"Hydaelyn's blessing" was a simple traveller's ward that Venat used to protect people from aetheric corruption. Does she still need to be alive for it to function? Hard to say, but given the warding scales provide basically the same function to any npc that has one, taking that power away from the WoL now seems a little pointless narratively speaking.

As for the crystals if light, didn't we break them during the hydaelyn fight? Whatever that means.