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    Quote Originally Posted by -BlueGreen- View Post
    I'm surprised you've put up with so much of the feedback from this thread. Anyway, I suspect part of the problem is the DC you're on. As far as I understand it, Faerie is part of the DC that has the most serious raiding groups, and on top of that, I know for sure it's the DC that got the most attention from the WoW crowd due to a certain streamer going to one of the other servers in that same DC.

    If you were on Coeurl, I'd just invite you to our FC. We're a chill group that try to run things together. Running with friends is a great way to learn a new role and avoid the problems you're describing. I can even help with learning tank as I've more or less gotten stuck with having to main it even though I'd prefer RDM due to no one else I play with really being willing to run tank. Actually, they don't like running healer either most of the time, so I've had runs where I go in on PLD without a healer and we either undersize (not unsync) dungeons or go 1 tank + 3 DPS. Those runs can be tons of fun that you won't have through the normal duty finder.

    Maybe once DC travel opens up, try visiting some world on one of the other two NA datacenters and see if dungeon runs are more pleasant there. With the recent news, it sounds like we won't have to wait too much longer for that feature.
    Rly lol? So, now Raiding group's is problem, because people start doing big pulls in already braindead easy game? Maybe just, i don't know, start press more buttons and be better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashpd View Post
    Rly lol? So, now Raiding group's is problem, because people start doing big pulls in already braindead easy game? Maybe just, i don't know, start press more buttons and be better?
    That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm essentially trying to point out that different datacenters have different cultures. Before world visit was a thing, it was even largely world-level cultures. The world-level cultures even survived to a degree until SE kicked the world population rebalancing into full gear which caused a massive influx of players used to large-server culture into what was previously small worlds.

    Raiders play how they like to play. I've done a bit of savage raiding myself and even run a parser mostly for my own personal entertainment (and to gauge how well I'm doing) sometimes. Casual players just like to do things differently. Likewise, plenty of people here have given warnings that people on the Japanese worlds also have a completely different culture. Is there some particular reason everyone should play the same way?

    I'm perfectly capable of wall to wall pulls, and I've had several instances of soloing bosses or keeping DPS alive even when the healer goes down without an RDM/SMN on the team. I just tend to hang with a crowd that often likes to just chill and take it easy and I have no problem with backing it off to 1-2 packs if that's what they want. The OP just sounds like he's on the wrong world and I was trying to give a helpful suggestion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -BlueGreen- View Post
    The OP just sounds like he's on the wrong world and I was trying to give a helpful suggestion.
    It means, OP need to adjust to that people, not people adjust to him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashpd View Post
    It means, OP need to adjust to that people, not people adjust to him.
    Perhaps a non-game example might highlight the point I'm trying to make better?

    Suppose a far-left Democrat wanders into a far-right Republican convention. Should that person expect to change many minds? Should the Republicans expect to change that person's mind? It's not likely to go one way or the other. You also can't just sit there and declare that only one of the two parties is right. What would be the point of political parties otherwise?

    No, instead that Democrat should probably just leave and go to wherever the Democrats were meeting up at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -BlueGreen- View Post
    Perhaps a non-game example might highlight the point I'm trying to make better?

    Suppose a far-left Democrat wanders into a far-right Republican convention. Should that person expect to change many minds? Should the Republicans expect to change that person's mind? It's not likely to go one way or the other. You also can't just sit there and declare that only one of the two parties is right. What would be the point of political parties otherwise?

    No, instead that Democrat should probably just leave and go to wherever the Democrats were meeting up at.
    First of - This example is not relevant to this topic at all. Second - From ToS:
    Separately, in Final Fantasy XIV, player communities may have their own specific set of loosely established rules and guidelines, which involve their own manners, morals, and etiquette. These community-specific rules and guidelines are not officially established as a unified set of rules for the entire community, so they may differ from one community to another. What may be acceptable in one community may be objectionable in another.

    If there is a situation in which a person repeatedly says or does something that can be judged as intentionally trying to disrupt the peace, such as "intentionally ignoring the community-specific rules and guidelines while being aware of them" or "unwilling to learn of them," a report can be made.
    So, if OP going against community-specific rule - big pulls - and try to disrupt peace (what op doing right now) OP can get a warning/ban. So, OP need to adjust
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashpd View Post
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    Seriously, people here are report happy or something.

    You're not going to have a foot to stand on if you report someone for single pulling in roulette. NOW if you make a party finder stating big pulls and they still single pull that would be reportable because that's disrupting gameplay.

    You can either be encouraging and maybe they will start to pull more or just eat the penalty and leave.

    Also from the TOS

    It is prohibited to force personal views or disregard the opinions of others. If a report has been filed and the prohibited activity is confirmed, a penalty will be issued.

    It is prohibited to make statements such as:
    "There's no way we can clear this with [suggestion]."
    "Big pulls are normal here, so do it!"
    "I don't care what you think, just follow my instructions."
    "I'm not asking for your opinion."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaciscokidd View Post
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    I'm against report about that. But number of snowflakes in that game gonna report OP for that. So he need to adjust.
    Btw yeah, your example clearly show why new ToS is bad. We can see how 2 opinion gonna get ban.
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