What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Ryaz]

Venat not doing anything is a giant plothole. Just tell them... they would believe it. Then get all the gang together, build an Imperium-like spaceship (Ancients should've been able to pull it off), follow the GPS tracker from Venat and Exterminatus the hell out of Ultima Thule before Meteion had the time to prepare.

Also, you really want to tell me that a giant memory wiping device didn't record what and whom it operated on?

But I get it. We anime. So emotion, much tears. I just hope further stories will be a bit more logical, because this stuff falls apart the moment you activate your brain.

So, emotions bad, logic good. Anime, bad. ������ Got it. I bet you're just a joy when watching movies.

And yeah, they would believe her, maybe? We don't know if they would. We don't know how Hermes would react. Again, telling them might be what sets off the fear leading to the Final Days in the first place.

Also, as beings of basically pure Aether, the Ancients couldn't reallly reach Meteion or fight her. Her realm is pure Dynamis, which the Ancients couldn't manipulate. Also, they needed massive amounts of Aether just to power the ship from a thousand thousand years of gathered energy from the Mother crystal. Chances are, the Ancients would probably have had to sacrifice many of their number just to power the engines. Third, there's the personality of most of the Ancients. They have no clue how to overcome despair. They never dealt with it. They couldn't even recognize the depression in Hermes, much less have a way to treat it.

[KizuyaKatogami]

So, emotions bad, logic good. Anime, bad. ������ Got it. I bet you're just a joy when watching movies.

And yeah, they would believe her, maybe? We don't know if they would. We don't know how Hermes would react. Again, telling them might be what sets off the fear leading to the Final Days in the first place.

Also, as beings of basically pure Aether, the Ancients couldn't reallly reach Meteion or fight her. Her realm is pure Dynamis, which the Ancients couldn't manipulate. Also, they needed massive amounts of Aether just to power the ship from a thousand thousand years of gathered energy from the Mother crystal. Chances are, the Ancients would probably have had to sacrifice many of their number just to power the engines. Third, there's the personality of most of the Ancients. They have no clue how to overcome despair. They never dealt with it. They couldn't even recognize the depression in Hermes, much less have a way to treat it.

I really dont get where this "Ancients couldnt manipulate dynamis" loophole is coming from.We see them use lb's in the dungeon. We know they have a facility capable of training them in that field. Also yes, logic is good. When you build a story around specific pieces of lore, but then throw all that lore out of the window just because...rule of cool, its kind of a problem for a lot of people. I dont think its really a maybe if they'd believe her. As we saw, Emet has his duty. Whether he believes someone or not, he needs to investigate due to his duty of the star. However, he knows he was mind wiped. All Venat has to do is tell him what happened along with the events leading up to the mind wipe. People act like she was some random citizen. She was Azem, an ex convocation member. Also, they dealt with suffering. We see this throughout the side quests on Elpis and even in Pandaemonium. So not sure where that comes from either.Also i'd say they overcame it considering they survived and summoned Zodiark...

[Neotempest]

I really dont get where this "Ancients couldnt manipulate dynamis" loophole is coming from.We see them use lb's in the dungeon. We know they have a facility capable of training them in that field. Also yes, logic is good. When you build a story around specific pieces of lore, but then throw all that lore out of the window just because...rule of cool, its kind of a problem for a lot of people. I dont think its really a maybe if they'd believe her. As we saw, Emet has his duty. Whether he believes someone or not, he needs to investigate due to his duty of the star. However, he knows he was mind wiped. All Venat has to do is tell him what happened along with the events leading up to the mind wipe. People act like she was some random citizen. She was Azem, an ex convocation member. Also, they dealt with suffering. We see this throughout the side quests on Elpis and even in Pandaemonium. So not sure where that comes from either.Also i'd say they overcame it considering they survived and summoned Zodiark...

They have "theories" of it's existence but there are no "schools", I guess that is the word I want to use, to investigate it. It's like trying to investigate, "Human Prayer". You say it's dumb to do that, sure. I'm not saying you should. But you are saying the ancients, with all their current knowledge, should of taken into consideration to experiment on Praying, Miracles, and Faith. People barely do that even in the real world and the ancients viewed Dynamis the same way.