Sales resumption, Home World Transfer resumption, and Oceanic Data Centre announced

[Mika_Zahard]

probably longer wait time on dungeons, raids etc though or will they be connected to other datacenter populations? otherwise unless the ping is unbearable on your current server there is no incentive to move to an empty datacenter unless you like playing like a single player game

OCE players want OCE servers? Now they'll get them. And if the queues are so bad because low population, then that will be an OCE problem. If their population is so bad that they have bad queues, then that'll teach em to keep asking for servers when their population cant sustain healthy queues.

[Garet]

OCE players want OCE servers? Now they'll get them. And if the queues are so bad because low population, then that will be an OCE problem. If their population is so bad that they have bad queues, then that'll teach em to keep asking for servers when their population cant sustain healthy queues.

There is nothing wrong with asking for servers that will be more enjoyable to play in. And not all people were asking for a datacenter. Of course having an oceanic datacenter with a very active and healthy population is the best case scenario.

For years English players were just asking for some designation of english servers even if they are part of the jpn datacenters so that people can gather there. For years players from SE Asia and other english language players here in Asia decided to choose and make unofficial english server out of Masamune Tonberry Kujata etc. instead. The Problem though is it still spread out english players who sometimes still get separated from each other and made those servers congested to which jpn players actually sometimes complain that it was us english players who are at fault for making their servers congested. So pointing the blame on just one group of people is so biased and negative of you.

[Feronar]

No cross region travel is incredibly disappointing. GG to us hoping to both move and continue playing with Americani friends we've been playing with the last decade. I won't be moving my main, it seems.

Yoshi has said differences due to "game economy and values". If they're so concerned about people going to the Japanese servers, just wall them off.

Why not simply disallow use of the market board while visiting another region if "game economy and values" is the problem?

[Mika_Zahard]

There is nothing wrong with asking for servers that will be more enjoyable to play in. And not all people were asking for a datacenter. Of course having an oceanic datacenter with a very active and healthy population is the best case scenario.

For years English players were just asking for some designation of english servers even if they are part of the jpn datacenters so that people can gather there. For years players from SE Asia and other english language players here in Asia decided to choose and make unofficial english server out of Masamune Tonberry Kujata etc. instead. The Problem though is it still spread out english players who sometimes still get separated from each other and made those servers congested to which jpn players actually sometimes complain that it was us english players who are at fault for making their servers congested. So pointing the blame on just one group of people is so biased and negative of you.

Read properly what i said.

I said, again, that if they want their own servers/dc so bad, then they better pray they have the population to sustain healthy queues.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

It is technically similar. Europeans joined NA servers knowing they are NA servers as well. When they moved those two world to the new Euro Datacenter from NA they also brought NA players there to Europe. I think they offered free transfers for both ways, in and out of the new EU DC, for those that wanted to go back to NA servers from EU.

But yes the big difference here is that the japanese is their main customers so their voices understandably carries more weight than NA players.

No, the servers moved from NA to EU were already labeled EU servers while they were here. They were just physically here. But meant for EU players to congregate on.

[Floortank]

probably longer wait time on dungeons, raids etc though or will they be connected to other datacenter populations? otherwise unless the ping is unbearable on your current server there is no incentive to move to an empty datacenter unless you like playing like a single player game

Oh my god, dude. They stalled this long because they didn't see a need for it, and now the need is overly abundant. And you think there's gonna be a bunch of dead servers. Holy schnitzel.

[Garet]

Read properly what i said.

I said, again, that if they want their own servers/dc so bad, then they better pray they have the population to sustain healthy queues.

Read what I posted properly. There is nothing wrong with asking for better servers to play in and that oceanic players were not asking for their own d/c as badly as you are implying. what a toxic person lol.

Like I Posted earlier. What most english oceanic player wanted early on was an official designation of english servers players could flock into with their friends and fellow english language players. But because SE did not decide to do that, players just decided to assign unofficial english servers which did not totally fix the problem because it made those servers congested and therefore made some players still unable to go into server where their friends are. And on top of that it made some japanese playerbase blame these english players for making their server the unofficial oceanic server and congesting it.

Besides I think in time the new oceanic d/c will have the population to sustain itself. Just that it will be slower without them moving some populated servers into it like they did with the EU datacenter to jumpstart the population.

[Illmaeran]

It will discourage a huge number of oceanic players in jp worlds from moving to the new datacenter though which will slow down population growth there. Why would people move to an empty datacenter unless the ping is unbearable for them in the jp datacenter.

A good portion of the OCE and SEA players in my FC on the Elemental DC (the same as Tonberry) are going to be moving to Materia when it opens. Nearly everyone in one of my linkshells, 99% of whom are on Tonberry, plan on going to Materia as well. There will be no shortage of people heading there, I assure you.

This is my fear as well. Unless the new oceanic datacenter is connected to the jp datacenter for duty finders etc. The low population of the new oceanic datacenter will be a big problem.

As the unofficial EN DC, Elemental's going to lose a substantial portion of it's population when transfers open. I'm honestly more concerned about finding DF groups on the JP servers than on the OCE ones.

A lot of us on Tonberry do NOT want to move. People like me are in Japan. A lot of others are in SEA rather than Australia and would get worse ping to the new DC. No need to force it on anyone.

Would you please expand on this, Seida? The great majority of people from Tonberry and Kujata that I have contact with are planning on moving. I realize since I'm not on Tonberry my communication pool is small and I'd like to know more about how the general EN population on Tonberry are feeling and why. Thanks!

[Garet]

Oh my god, dude. They stalled this long because they didn't see a need for it, and now the need is overly abundant. And you think there's gonna be a bunch of dead servers. Holy schnitzel.

Where in my post did I say the oceanic datacenter will fail? I just said it will be quite dead at the start since the population will be very low and comprising of mostly new players. And without olders server population to jumpstart it, it will take longer to populate than had they done what they did to the EU datacenter when they opened it. The queues will be bad especially if you happen to play on offpeak hours since the playerbase will be very very small.

In time I am sure it will fill itself up. Especially after 4-6 months when the new players they funnel there also begin to do max content and do olders contents and alt jobs.

[Garet]

A good portion of the OCE and SEA players in my FC on the Elemental DC (the same as Tonberry) are going to be moving to Materia when it opens. Nearly everyone in one of my linkshells, 99% of whom are on Tonberry, plan on going to Materia as well. There will be no shortage of people heading there, I assure you.



As the unofficial EN DC, Elemental's going to lose a substantial portion of it's population when transfers open. I'm honestly more concerned about finding DF groups on the JP servers than on the OCE ones.

I do still plan to move as well but not outright. And contrary to yours, most of the SE players I know ingame and their FC are planning to stay because they said the ping will probably be the same more or less so there is no incentive for them lose what they already have here in Tonberry. Although a lot said they will create an alt there just to experience it and see.

Among my Aussie friends it is 50/50. Most do want and will probably go but some will also see how it goes first as well like me.

edit: Although I sometimes think it is indeed better to move in the long run. Even though I expect a lot of players will not outright move due to some concerns I think eventually it will slowly bleed the english playerbase such that in the future there might be too few left as players quit game etc. Since they will be funneling english players to the oceanic d/c. I experienced this back when I was in Masamune. It was the unofficial oceanic server back even in 1.0 but when tonberry and then kujata became the new unofficial oceanic servers in 2.0 onwards, the english playerbase in masamune dried up so much that I rarely meet one during my play time and so I moved to tonberry last year when I came back to this game after I took a break after heavensward.