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  1. #21
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    Zanelle Solainteau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Rival Wings for some odd reason is not included in the frontlines roulette. If they put it in the rotation it would get played.
    That's because it is not a 3 team 72 man Frontline match. Rival Wings is the category/mode and not an individual instance. If they created another map or brought back RW's first map SE could add a roulette.
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  2. #22
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    Rurusamu Fufusamu
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    wish there's a roulette for this, it's very fun
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    "FFXIV is not a fun pvp game", yeah no, it absolutely can be very fun. The issue is that 95% of the players don't understand the maps at all, and don't even care about learning, making it stale if you yourself try to be good. It's also SE's fault for not encouraging and teaching people how to play properly.
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  4. #24
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    Anhra Nefaris
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    Some genius in Squeenix HQ thought its a good idea to exclude all Rival Wings content (including Astragalos from which we have not heard from in years) from Frontline Roulette or simply make it its own Daily PvP Roulette.

    It is as dead on EU Servers as it is on US. Apparently, JPN Servers have 24/7 active PvP matches on all Modes but that is something i just heard and havent confirmed myself.

    I wonder if the 6.1 changes to PvP will do it finally some Justice, but knowing how Squeenix usually does things, i dont have much hope for it to be any good.
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    Blade Belisaire
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    I really don't see what's not to gain by them making Rival Wings it's own roulette and bringing back Astralagos. It is basically content that is just left sitting there untouched. Our subs paid for them to build it, I'd like to be able to play it.

    People forget, before the Frontline roulette, Frontlines struggled a lot as well with queues. I used to really struggle to get into modes like Seal Rock, now I never do. The roulette system works really well for basically all other content in the game and it worked for Frontlines, so I really just don't get why they haven't made it into a roulette already.
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  6. #26
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    The only thing will get me to play Rival Wing is probably the removal those 2 baby protectors, otherwise.....
    I am fine of babies getting 18s invulnerable but baby protects are just too much
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    That's because it is not a 3 team 72 man Frontline match. Rival Wings is the category/mode and not an individual instance. If they created another map or brought back RW's first map SE could add a roulette.
    There's literally zero reason why they can't just have a random pvp roulette, including both Frontlines and Rival Wings. Zero reason whatsoever unless spaghetti code argument applies to this as well. Right now we also have an entire map, Astralagos, that's been unplayable for 3 years straight. This is just pathetic. The only reason anyone still does Frontlines, the last active game mode, is because it has it's own roulette. If they can't be bothered to put Rival Wings on the daily as well then just remove it from the game completely. It's utterly embarresing that they're allowing completely dead content to exist and doing absolutely nothing to get the playerbase to engage with it anymore. Just remove it at this point.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    There's literally zero reason why they can't just have a random pvp roulette, including both Frontlines and Rival Wings. Zero reason whatsoever unless spaghetti code argument applies to this as well. Right now we also have an entire map, Astralagos, that's been unplayable for 3 years straight. This is just pathetic. The only reason anyone still does Frontlines, the last active game mode, is because it has it's own roulette. If they can't be bothered to put Rival Wings on the daily as well then just remove it from the game completely. It's utterly embarresing that they're allowing completely dead content to exist and doing absolutely nothing to get the playerbase to engage with it anymore. Just remove it at this point.
    Why would you remove something that people play on the weekend? Also RW and FL are very different. Someone could like one and not the other.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    Why would you remove something that people play on the weekend? Also RW and FL are very different. Someone could like one and not the other.
    The they would play pvp Only in days that does not have rw.
    Seema some people Just wanna be antagonist for the sake of It.
    I mean there are literally 4-5 solutions to the problem, but no.. Just not so It cause.. reasons
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garten View Post
    The they would play pvp Only in days that does not have rw.
    Seema some people Just wanna be antagonist for the sake of It.
    I mean there are literally 4-5 solutions to the problem, but no.. Just not so It cause.. reasons
    That's still limiting content a bit much. It would be better to have a separate roulette. It already feels long enough to get certain FL matches.

    The Moogle tome event also proves people do want to play RW, but they don't queue up, because it won't pop under normal circumstances.
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