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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    I think that is why people hate Zenos, and why he works. He's the pvper, and nothing matter besides settling the matter in the here and now betwixt one another with no grand plan or goal. Also on the topic of player driven narrative, static drama and being wronged has spurred grander emotions in me than the actual narrative. Being dismissed and left out of something I helped create made me loathe and hate in a way the narrative did not. It is something I remember clearer than the story.
    I don't think Zenos is the character to point to as the pvper ideal. Zenos is a duelist-- someone who likes to perfect his own techniques to take on any singular foe. Zenos is completely detached from other people, completely blind to anyone around him that isn't his "prey," and has no interest in allies. Seeing Zenos as a PVPer is a fundamental misunderstanding of PVP.

    Ilberd is the ideal PVPer, capable of unimaginable grudges and willing to go to incredible lengths to gather together -- through any available barefaced or underhanded means -- the necessary force to take on a foe he does not like.

    The PVP narrative is Ilberd's story. Someone wronged him, so he will push through as many hells as necessary to get payback. He didn't even bat an eye trading himself for something that could potentially break the world if it made them pay. He becomes frustrated when others won't take up arms; he leaps on any chance to take up arms in service to his desire. He will suffer indignity, hardship, get his hands dirty-- all in service to the goal of making them pay. And above all, he is zealously loyal to his "people." Even when they don't deserve it.

    Under our current ruleset, Illberd would have been banned before he made it to the banquet in ARR.
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    Last edited by van_arn; 01-15-2022 at 03:08 AM.

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