A PvP Driven Expansion For 7.0

[Cyreil]

You don't want to shake things up. You want an excuse to act out.

And people can't play 100% all the time no matter what you or anyone else say. People are going to screw up in game and there is nothing you can do about it.

You want pvp so bad, go to the wolves den and get someone to duel you.

[Caurcas]

You don't want to shake things up. You want an excuse to act out.

And people can't play 100% all the time no matter what you or anyone else say. People are going to screw up in game and there is nothing you can do about it.

You want pvp so bad, go to the wolves den and get someone to duel you.

You missed the bit where I am in support large scale pvp over small scale pvp. The small scale is fine currently.

[Nanne]

You missed the bit where I am in support large scale pvp over small scale pvp. The small scale is fine currently.

72 players isn't enough? I am fairly sure after that people would start despawning from your screen and that would be awful for PvP cause you might not even see who is hitting if everyone is fighting close

[Michieltjuhh]

If life gives you lemons, you make lemonade.

If life gives you this game's engine, you make a PvE game.

Can't make something without the proper tools.

[Sarnai]

72 players isn't enough? I am fairly sure after that people would start despawning from your screen and that would be awful for PvP cause you might not even see who is hitting if everyone is fighting close

72 ppl with absolutely no way to turn off the player effects is already a living hell for weaker PCs. Half the ppl wont load and you can get killed before u understand what hit u.
Larger scale will just destroy ppl's PC.

[ErryK]

Here in lies an issue that forced participation in pvp would fix. That being the average 14er's distain for it due to being to deal with a challenge. Nothing in this game forces you to get good outside of savage and ultimate. 95% of content can be carried and leeched, and is more of that were pvp in nature then they would more readily forced to get good to get anywhere.

that's bad logic because i do savage and ultimate and refuse to do pvp unless i have to. the fact of the matter is, xiv is not built for pvp.

Y'all acting like PvP committed some horrible wrong to you ate your food and kicked your dog. Riddle me this, why are the games that have the most longevity overwhelmingly pvp?

i should go eat my spacecake, maybe i can make statements like this too.

[AscendentBlue]

Such a bad idea. PvP, if it is included in any game, should always be optional, i.e. a player chooses to take part in it. Forcing players into PvP will simply alienate a huge part of the playerbase.

[van_arn]

Ironically, the closest I’ve seen in this game to a pvp narrative between players are the alliances forged between players getting ready for a savage tier drop.

That’s players working together and preparing to take on a boss, not players though.

[Caurcas]

Ironically, the closest I’ve seen in this game to a pvp narrative between players is the alliances forged between players getting ready for a savage tier drop.

That’s players working together and preparing to take on a boss, not players though.

I think that is why people hate Zenos, and why he works. He's the pvper, and nothing matter besides settling the matter in the here and now betwixt one another with no grand plan or goal. Also on the topic of player driven narrative, static drama and being wronged has spurred grander emotions in me than the actual narrative. Being dismissed and left out of something I helped create made me loathe and hate in a way the narrative did not. It is something I remember clearer than the story.

[kejakalope]

As the title suggests, SE making 7.0 a pvp driven expansion would really shake up the formula and create many interesting opportunities.

The main opportunity would be to solve the login queue issue by getting rid of all their customers.