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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teah_Kaye View Post
    I do wonder what makes one "eligible" for a Voidsent avatar. It's established in the RPR job quests that it's not just something anyone can have, but apparently the ability can be inherited because it was able to be passed down through generations of Priscilla's family. She says it requires a "killer instinct" and being specially attuned to the Void. What makes you specially attuned to the Void? Do you need to have a shard there?
    As Myahele notes, the RDM quests deal with certain bloodlines being touched by the Void and cultivated to be receptive to it's power. I'm not sure that's exactly what RPRs are dealing with, but it's interesting to note that Zenos was very interested in Lambard's Void Red Magic - Which he says he unlocked from "the wisdom of the ancients" - and after picking up his scythe Zenos has no trouble manifesting an Avatar despite not having the soul crystal for it. Additionally, the Reaper Enshroud ability and Zenos' fusing with his Voidsent bears more than a slight resemblance to Lambard's transformation, and when he wounds X'rhun to steal his energy the effect both visually and mechanically is practically identical to RPR's Soul Slice/Scythe attacks, with the same red orbs being drawn into him and everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    And can I take this moment to go on a side rant about calling him "Eric"? I know a lot of people are using it but it feels like a Hildibrand-style misnaming to me while "Erich" seems a more natural short form by syllable.
    My friends and I have been calling him "Enrique Antonio".

    As for wild theories that are probably very wrong:

    - The 12 are Ancients who also didn't agree with the whole Zodiark idea and decided to do their own thing.

    - We are going to Corvos at some point (maybe relic weapon zone) and there will be Allagan shenanigans. G'raha Tia will rise to the ocasion and help out his dispossessed countrymen despite his crippling impostor syndrome. He will become Nuhn. There will be an uplifting speech.

    - When you are confronting Elidibus in the Crystal Tower back in ShB, he mentions he has to keep on his duty because he promised something to someone, but he can't remember who. It's you, and he did that at the end of Pandemonium.

    - There will be a timeskip. The twins will have their growth spurt. Alphinaud will look like his dad and Alisaie will become the hottest Elezen woman that ever walked Etheirys for some reason. She will still Corps a Corps into every single AoE.

    - Lahabrea will NOT be hot. He will be kinda gross. Mythologically fitting, as he will very likely be Hephaestus. The playerbase will draw porn of him regardless.

    - Next expansion will be centered around dragon-related troubles.
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  3. 01-14-2022 02:36 AM

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    It has been foreshadowed some, but I still rather dislike the idea of G'raha Nunh, just because there would be a lot of gender-essentialist baggage there, considering he's been pretty consistently depicted asexually (Aenore tries to get in his pants and just ends up confused). (EDIT: To clarify, I mean having no canonical interest, rather than a canonical lack of interest.) I know ARR tends to ignore the "voluntary sexual slavery" aspect of the nunh role on account of age ratings, conflating it with a position of "leader" instead, but even as subtext it makes me uncomfortable. I don't really think that suddenly dropping him into a situation where he (implied) has to regularly have sex with a bunch of women would really do anything for his character, except make him a "real man" or some such nonsense. (His single-minded devotion to the WoL is his selling point, not a character flaw, but that's an entirely different discussion.)

    I'd rather see him stick things out with the Students, and realize through his dealings with his tribe that he already had a "real" family: his father was Galuf all along, and his sister is Krile. So rather than G'raha Nunh, I think I'd rather see Raha Baldesion.
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    Last edited by Fenral; 01-14-2022 at 10:26 AM.
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  5. 01-14-2022 03:11 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teah_Kaye View Post
    Maybe he could choose to shirk tradition and become a different kind of nunh who would just serve in a leadership role. G'raha has spent most if not all of his (exceptionally long) life outside of the traditional Seeker social structure, IIRC, so it is a little difficult to imagine him settling down and becoming a "traditional" nunh with all that entails.
    We don't really have much of a timeline for Locus Aemonus (formerly Corvos) being annexed, but since G'raha is 24 in 1577 (the current year since ARR), he was born in 1553, already 30+ years after the Garlean conquest of Ilsabard in 1522. So, knowing 1562 (the Bozja incident) as the year Nael van Darnus really started messing with Allagan tech, he would have been at most 9 before being sent to Sharlayan (and out of Darnus territory), quite possibly younger if we get any more backstory in that area, with only very narrow odds of being older if a crater called Bozja somehow wasn't enough for the Corvosi G to recognize the threat. So, yes, most of his life outside the traditional tribe structure, and easily too young for the birds and the bees.

    Don't get me wrong, if they wanted to make him a leader but also an advocate for men's right to choose, I'd be down with that. He's already implied he can't pass on the Eye, but even if he hadn't, we know what little royal blood he has wasn't enough to interface with Allagan tech, so there wouldn't be much of a point. Having him do a 180 on settling down in Corvos would still need a lot to happen, though, which is probably why we got so much groundwork in 6.0.
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    My wild and crazy theory is that the Thavnairan and Garlean embassies in Kugane will finally be used for something substantial.
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  8. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    It has been foreshadowed some, but I still rather dislike the idea of G'raha Nunh (...) considering he's been pretty consistently depicted as asexual (Aenore tries to get in his pants and just ends up confused).
    I don't think confusing Aenor when she's trying to get in your pants is any indicator you aren't interested in sex as a general thing. lol G'raha is "depicted as asexual" about as much as Estinien, Hien, Urianger, Y'shtola, Yugiri, Lyse, Tataru, F'lahmin, and Cid are. That is to say: we generally haven't asked or heard them talk about it. Without the proper context, how physically attracted to someone he does or does not feel is logically not going to come up.


    That said, I do agree on the general sentiment that he likely wouldn't be interested in becoming nuhn of the G tribe. The whole lion pride system seekers have going has been shown to not be a biological imperative so much as a cultural norm, now that we've seen mystel on the First and no indication of anything other than monogamous pairings. So his biology isn't gonna make him want to be a nuhn. And he's been out of seeker culture for actual centuries, so that pressure won't be there either.

    Though the tribe might seek him for it if he goes back to Corvos at some point. Cus "Famous prodigal son returns an accomplished warrior and hero who saved the literal universe!", and all. Can easily see that leading to eager advances and getting really awkward really fast.
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    Last edited by Alleluia; 01-14-2022 at 09:26 AM.

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    I've been led to believe that in many cases it is deliberately left vague as to who a particular character may be interested in so that players can come up with their own theories within the sphere of their personal head canon. It's a trend that I hope continues, since it appears to be the best compromise without ruffling too many feathers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I've been led to believe that in many cases it is deliberately left vague as to who a particular character may be interested in so that players can come up with their own theories within the sphere of their personal head canon. It's a trend that I hope continues, since it appears to be the best compromise without ruffling too many feathers.
    Oh yeah, you can headcanon G'raha as being uninterested in sex if you like, just like you can headcanon him being wol-sexual, bi, straight, or what have you. I just don't think its accurate to say "x is how he's been consistently portrayed", when he really hasn't. Its been left open. There's a difference.
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    I'd like to see an exploration of the void, and perhaps a plot point using the lucavi stones and bargains with void entities. Furthermore, I'd like them to embrace the philosophy they espoused through Venat about struggle being the meaning of life. To meld a narrative of doom, tragedy and betrayal the likes of which 14 has not seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleluia View Post
    Oh yeah, you can headcanon G'raha as being uninterested in sex if you like, just like you can headcanon him being wol-sexual, bi, straight, or what have you. I just don't think its accurate to say "x is how he's been consistently portrayed", when he really hasn't. Its been left open. There's a difference.
    I concede it might have been better if I had phrased it as "having no canonical interest in sex" rather than canonically having a lack of interest. To be quite clear, though, I headcanon him as "uninterested in anyone but the WoL," though certain parties get their feathers ruffled at that suggestion, too, so I was maybe erring too far on the side of caution in describing his portrayal. (There was also the whole thing with Lyna where she was all "help grampa's hot now" and his attitude was basically "I changed your diapers." Comic gold.)
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