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  1. #101
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    Koldan Dalen
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    Developers should implement ingame solutions that is going to prevent people from messing with the game (access to non-default functions, emotes and such that other people can see and interract with).
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  2. #102
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    Duduno Wawawen
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    This thread blows my mind. Cactbot literally tells you mechanics before the animations even happen. It’s a significant advantage over console players for many mechanics, even in ULTIMATES. If the game was only PC it wouldn’t be that big a deal, but it’s really insane how people convince themselves it’s fair that Square turns a blind eye to these things when half their playerbase is unable to use them. It really blows my mind
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    Last edited by jamjeeshoul77; 01-13-2022 at 10:39 PM.

  3. #103
    Player IdowhatIwant's Avatar
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    Jimbo Jimbo
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamjeeshoul77 View Post
    This thread blows my mind. Cactbot literally tells you mechanics before the animations even happen. It’s a significant advantage over console players for many mechanics, even in ULTIMATES. If the game was only PC it wouldn’t be that big a deal, but it’s really insane how people convince themselves it’s fair that Square turns a blind eye to these things when half their playerbase is unable to use them. It really blows my mind
    What is the difference though between cactbot and some one calling out mechanics over discord which is another thing console players do not have access to.
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  4. #104
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    Equinox Axxion
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamjeeshoul77 View Post
    This thread blows my mind. Cactbot literally tells you mechanics before the animations even happen. It’s a significant advantage over console players for many mechanics, even in ULTIMATES. If the game was only PC it wouldn’t be that big a deal, but it’s really insane how people convince themselves it’s fair that Square turns a blind eye to these things when half their playerbase is unable to use them. It really blows my mind
    The thread is talking about cheat engine and not catbot
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    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    What is the difference though between cactbot and some one calling out mechanics over discord which is another thing console players do not have access to.
    I wasn’t aware people who do call outs are able to read hidden triggers in the client’s files to call out RNG mechanics before the animation even happens. It’s cheating….how is this not obvious? Why do people defend this?

    Going back and reading people’s comments on these things, calling them “calculators” or “crutches”. It’s like people are intentionally ignoring the fact that these plugins tell you mechanics before the game gives visual indicators for mechanics. It’s cheating, it literally hacks the game’s files and reads hidden triggers that the fight designers don’t want the player to know. Instead of looking where the bad thing is coming from, it tells you where it’s coming from before you’re even humanly able to know where it’s coming from.

    It’s so incredibly simple what these things are yet people just seem to love defending them and disagreeing with people who call it out.
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    Last edited by jamjeeshoul77; 01-13-2022 at 10:58 PM.

  6. #106
    Player IdowhatIwant's Avatar
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    Jimbo Jimbo
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamjeeshoul77 View Post
    I wasn’t aware people who do call outs are able to read hidden triggers in the client’s files to call out RNG mechanics before the animation even happens. It’s cheating….how is this not obvious? Why do people defend this?

    Going back and reading people’s comments on these things, calling them “calculators” or “crutches”. It’s like people are intentionally ignoring the fact that these plugins tell you mechanics before the game gives visual indicators for mechanics. It’s cheating, it literally hacks the game’s files and reads hidden triggers that the fight designers don’t want the player to know. Instead of looking where the bad thing is coming from, it tells you where it’s coming from before you’re even humanly able to know where it’s coming from.

    It’s so incredibly simple what these things are yet people just seem to love defending them and disagreeing with people who call it out.
    Even RNG mechanics have a visual action the boss makes before the move is executed or it has a cast bar. Most of the fights in this game are heavily scripted though with very few RNG mechanics. This was just a poorly thought out way to deflect the question because you know what the answer is. There is no difference. In then end you should be able to react accordingly when you see these actions. Some people lack the attention span or reaction speed to do this and benefit from a call out on the mechanic more so than others. But in reality there is no difference between cactpot/act calling out a mechanic and a person over discord calling out a mechanic.
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  7. #107
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    I'm still just trying to figure out where this need for modding on console is coming from when modding on console isn't really a big thing in general? You can literally Google why modding isn't readily available on console compared to PCs pretty easily. I know Bethesda has done it with a couple of their games (Farming Sim as well) but outside of that, are there any other major titles that support modding for console?

    Let's be real, Square isn't gonna give the stuff PC players have to console players and they're not gonna ban anyone who uses them either for reasons already stated in this thread. The only thing left to do is accept the situation for what it is really.
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 01-13-2022 at 11:43 PM.

  8. #108
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    Ruru Nayu
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    Even RNG mechanics have a visual action the boss makes before the move is executed or it has a cast bar. Most of the fights in this game are heavily scripted though with very few RNG mechanics. This was just a poorly thought out way to deflect the question because you know what the answer is. There is no difference. In then end you should be able to react accordingly when you see these actions. Some people lack the attention span or reaction speed to do this and benefit from a call out on the mechanic more so than others. But in reality there is no difference between cactpot/act calling out a mechanic and a person over discord calling out a mechanic.
    Using Cactbot makes you a bad player change my mind.
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  9. #109
    Player IdowhatIwant's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruru_Nayu View Post
    Using Cactbot makes you a bad player change my mind.
    What if I don't want to change your mind cause your mind is pure.
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  10. #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    What if I don't want to change your mind cause your mind is pure.
    Seems fair!
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