The Alliance roulette is unbearable

[Avatre]

Okay, bare with me here. I am curious if you or anyone else can answer my question.

Why is this a big deal? How do you know people do this? Do you examine every player when you zone in?

I've had the Crystal Tower alliances over and over for days and weeks. It's pretty fun. Heck I get gear out of it to break down or sell for seals. Even saw a mechanic I never saw before as well.

I mean, if one goes through the roulette for alliances, I don't see the issue at all. Is it keeping other alliances from being done?

For how we know people do it, watch HP when you load in. A lot of the time you will see someone instantly be missing health. Sometimes if you're lucky, you'll see an almost naked person in the group before you see the HP gauge over their head.

As for why we care, running that roulette for years, and getting those three raids out of the 9-12 available 90% of the time is annoying. The other issue, is that there are people who are trying to do the other raids, but because people will equip/unequip gear so their ilvl is only able to get them into the CT raids, those ones take a whole lot longer(as BaconBits mentioned) to pop. Thus preventing those people from being able to progress through those raid series sometimes. And because enough people do the lower equip/unequip gear cheese, the CT raids still take over the alliance raid roulette the vast majority of the time.

[DamianFatale]

Please please please pray, add an ilvl requirement to this roulette that scales with the job level of the person queuing for it.

A level 90 character equipping lvl 50 gear and then queuing for this roulette to get a quick and easy LotA or CT run is not what this roulette is intended for. This is having a huge adverse impact on everyone who wants to enjoy all of the alliance raids with this roulette, especially the more recent ones. About 90% of my alliance roulette runs are one of these two raids because of people abusing this exploit and I'm going to die from boredom if this continues.

100% agree. I am SICK AND TIRED of "fastest and laziest" is the best. I want to be challenged. I want to do different alliance raids. I am sick to death of the rest of the fanbase ruining the queues for alliance raids for the rest of us. Different ones = more chances to get different rewards. That's why I was dreading the day that the Bozja questline becomes lest relevant, because I knew once it stopped being as popular, then no one would go for the Ivalice raids again. I like them once in awhile. :/

[Sheriyana]

Because less people would run the leveling roulette the higher level they get....The majority of my jobs are above level 60. What reason would I ever have to run leveling roulette with your system? Unless they doubled the exp from level roulette I'd never touch it again and I'm pretty sure there are a lot of players like me in a similar situation. Your idea would fracture the roulette way too much and they'd have to introduce trusts into the lower level dungeons to compensate, which depending on a point of view could be either good or bad (I personally think trusts are a bad idea for the most part)

Umm... What? Of course the rewards would still scale according to your level like they do now to make the lower level ones worth doing, I don't understand why you think they wouldn't. People still run MSQ roulette just fine as the rewards make it worth it. I fail to see the issue with trusts too, there's still a ton of people that don't use them. Trusts are slow and boring, but they're a nice change of pace if you want a relaxing dungeon run while having to take breaks in between pulls to check on stuff or whatever, you can go at your own pace. Hell I wish more people would use trusts, even make the first run of every new dungeon mandatory to do with trusts for all I care, maybe we wouldn't see so many people who have no idea what they're doing in the duty finder.

[TaleraRistain]

So you are telling me there are enough people for me to consistently get the CT raids, more specifically ST, for years on end in the roullette. Of all the players on the Aether data center there are enough that need to run CT that I have done it a few times a week for at least 4 years now.

I'm on Aether too and during eastern prime time this week I haven't even seen CT. I keep getting the Nier raids and Rabanastre.

Also, remember ST is one of the best places to get loathsome memories for relic. I'm sure I caused many people to get that when I queued directly for it working on my first one of those.

[Soge01]

Maybe split the ARR and Heavensward raids into their own roulette, while the rest are put in their own?

[Kuroka]

I also would not be surprised is a larger amount of players only have the level 50 alliance raids unlocked. How ever if you make this complaint you may as well start complaining now, when the expert roulette will contain 1 dungeon from 6.1 onwards

WAIT. Did they say that?? Uusally we would get the 4 lv 90 ones together and then on 6.2 we should only have the 6.1 and 6.2 Dungeon in it... right...?

[YukikoKurosawa]

100% agree. I am SICK AND TIRED of "fastest and laziest" is the best. I want to be challenged. I want to do different alliance raids. I am sick to death of the rest of the fanbase ruining the queues for alliance raids for the rest of us. Different ones = more chances to get different rewards. That's why I was dreading the day that the Bozja questline becomes lest relevant, because I knew once it stopped being as popular, then no one would go for the Ivalice raids again. I like them once in awhile. :/

It's people who don't want anything fun or challenging and just want to login, collect their quick and easy rewards, then log out. They will happily ruin the game for everyone else if it means making their boring reward collecting slightly less time consuming. Why they play the game in the first place is anyone's guess.

[Tlamila]

Stormblood relics are purely Eureka.

I think they meant Shadowbringers, since you get Loathsome Memories in CT raids.
Which is sad tbh, I wish we could get them from all AR. Cause right now popping CT instead of any other means: more xp for less time and effort + relic progress.

I must say, I've always been the one hating so much how much CT popped and never anything else, i was so tired of that place I refused to see it again. But now, since EW came out, I get some Ivalice stuff 90% of the time somehow.And while I appreciate the diversity and something less dumb, the stark contrast between a very long and maybe even tiring run for the same xp as a very short and braindead one, plus no relic progress vs relic progress, does feel very unfair.
It reallys does need some balancing or separation.

[linayar]

That said, I'd argue the fate of the Students of Baldesion (and the Isle of Val in general) is pretty MSQ-relevant to things now that the MSQ brought us to Old Sharlayan and we're there supposedly as representatives of the Students of Baldesion. So I'm a little surprised it's all buried behind Eureka (and the final answers behind the Baldesion Arsenal 56-person raid instance); I feel like that's lore they maybe could've/should've surfaced somewhere else in the game in addition to stuffing it into what's arguably fairly niche content even by the standards applied to raids in general.

That probably falls under the same category as Coil.

I like this suggestion but they would have to consider people who only have this or that set of raids unlocked and not punish them for that.

If it's based on gear equipped for queueing, it wouldn't punish them based on content available/received.

Maybe split the ARR and Heavensward raids into their own roulette, while the rest are put in their own?

I think splitting the alliance raids might make the queue worse given how many people you need. Also, the resulting reward distribution might not be as good for each roulette.

[aveyond-dreams]

The problem is that compared to Crystal Tower, the rewards aren't worth the headache of running the older raids since their mechanics often catch unexperienced players by surprise and things drag on much longer than anyone would wish.

The Ivalice raids are a no for me these days, despite my love of them especially back when they came out. As for Void Ark due to the excessive instant-KO mechanics I actively avoided unlocking that series on my alts. It's not even that I personally mind the difficulty, it's the fact that I know other people will struggle and turn what I was hoping would be a 10 minute run into an hour long one.

If that's going to be the case, then harder raids should reward exp on par with MSQ roulette.