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  1. #231
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    Dahlinea's Avatar
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    Dahlinea Thriss
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    People always say SMN just casts a bunch of different colored ruins but they never say RDM casts a bunch of different colored jolts before its melee phase. Jolt, Fire, and Stone all do the same thing and all have the same cast time, but somehow they are all recognized as being distinctly different.
    Basically, using RDM spells in a systematic way will fill a gauge that gives you access to a powerful combo, which will then start to proc other powerful spells. The difference between the "colored Jolts" is simply because they produce different effects (fills a different bar the gauge) and helps to unlock a lot of different abilities.

    For SMN's "colored Ruins" you simply shoot them for raw damage and that's it.

    I'm not saying SMN needs to be the same as RDM, but that SMN right now is basically reduced to "use whatever is available without consequence".
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  2. #232
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    Madoka's Avatar
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    Ayukawa Madoka
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Imagine rubbing in that you have 5 buttons.
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  3. #233
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    skooma_dealer's Avatar
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    Skooma Dealer
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    Cerberus
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dahlinea View Post
    "use whatever is available without consequence".
    Except you need to know the fight and think beforehead what to use, or you will stuck running around with Ifrit's 2,8 sec cooldowns or Garuda's pool, unable to cast and losing dps, if you already wasted swiftcast on something.
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    Last edited by skooma_dealer; 01-12-2022 at 08:11 PM.

  4. #234
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    Madoka's Avatar
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    Ayukawa Madoka
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by skooma_dealer View Post
    Except you need to know the fight and think beforehead what to use, or you will stack running around with Ifrit's 2,8 sec cooldowns or Garuda's pool, unable to cast and losing dps, if you already wasted swiftcast on something.
    A situation that happens once per fight at most.
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  5. #235
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    skooma_dealer's Avatar
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    Skooma Dealer
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    Cerberus
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Madoka View Post
    A situation that happens once per fight at most.
    I suggest you to try savage raids then. You will be surprised.
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  6. #236
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    tearagion's Avatar
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    Tearagi Eruzure
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    Gilgamesh
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by skooma_dealer View Post
    I suggest you to try savage raids then. You will be surprised.
    I've already tried savage+ content on new SMN and the only thing that surprised me was how little there was to do, cognitively and mechanically.
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  7. #237
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    Madoka's Avatar
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    Ayukawa Madoka
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    I do. Once you've resolved a mechanic without prior fuckups you know what primal phase you should be in then. And as long as your party isn't over-complicating a mechanic, like most PF parties and fourfold.
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  8. #238
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    mathias-merodach's Avatar
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    Mathias Merodach
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    Brynhildr
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    ....now that you bring that up. I kinda want that now. Why doesnt Monk have some of those moves? Granted you do get a bit of Sabin's Blitzes in FFXIV. SE, gives us the option suplex our enemies or spawn dolphins with an uppercut!
    Right!!? I wanna finish a Hades fight by hitting him in time with Echo the dolphin!
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  9. #239
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    Rolder50's Avatar
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Siren
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by skooma_dealer View Post
    I suggest you to try savage raids then. You will be surprised.
    Pardon, but I happened to look up your character, and you seem to be doing Savage on Samurai and not Summoner. So, how exactly would you know how Summoner plays in Savage?
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  10. #240
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    StriderMaxwell's Avatar
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    Knight Armament
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgummibear View Post
    Nope. The job is dead. I must have gone through the skill list at least a dozen times trying to figure out what I was missing because I actually had empty slots. I honestly don't know how it went live like this.

    I know people complained about the original complexity, but damn talk about throwing the baby out with the bathwater. They went to such an extreme in the opposite direction I could almost set a metronome to the button presses. Now easily the most mind-numbingly boring job in the game.

    Also it feels like physik is bugged because it says 400 potency but heals seem to be a fraction of that value.

    I actually regret having leveled the job now.
    Looks up level 80 Summoner who has never downed an extreme or savage boss, u wot.
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