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    Mirhd's Avatar
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    Ellisuur Muur
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Haha, yes, what was that time they got meta about that? Stormblood was it, where they were like "Hey if any of your friends are fishing nearby" *winkwink*

    But canonically we don't fight alone, cheesy as the game explanation may be.
    (Prefacing this to make it clear I have no issue with you, just that this is a point of annoyance for me with the game)

    I'm sorry, but this still rings incredibly hollow for quite a few fights in the game, and Innocence is a particularly glaring example. For nearly every major fight in ShB your fellow Scions are with you (also Lyna and Graha in Holminster), and this makes narrative sense. They even climb Mount Gulg with you, but when you reach the top, they very clearly tell you to go on while they hold off Vauthrys' minions. Do people really suggest you just happened to have a bunch of people following in your (and your fellow Scions) wake, that only then, at the very end, actually do anything? Ludicrous. It can't even be explained away with the NPCs from the role quests, because they're never featured or even implied to be there at any point... nevermind the whole "corrupting light" thing.

    I feel like the Trust system was introduced (and later, the Azem crystal), at least in part, to deal with the silly "you totally had a cadre of able fighters with you, lololol" nonsense, because many instances in the game absolutely could not have worked otherwise prior to that. The fights with the Triad in HW? Sure, that works, since you weren't on a time crunch and could (at least somewhat conceivably) scrape together a party to deal with them. Ravana? Yeah, no, it was just you and Ysyale, and she gets taken out by Ravana at the start.
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    Last edited by Mirhd; 01-12-2022 at 07:41 AM. Reason: spelling

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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirhd View Post
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    I agree. The "are they or aren't they there" business with players in trials is more confusing to claim they're there than to say the canon version is a solo fight as it logically should have been.

    Even Azem's crystal doesn't explain it when we only received it in 5.3.
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