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    Quote Originally Posted by Melorie View Post
    Personally, I dislike the term white-knight as well, and I don't disagree with you, of course there's always the other side that acts in the same way. I'm just saying that Yoshi statement is going to be used by people that can't handle any type of critic if it doesn't fit into their own standards, and anything that doesn't reach that isn't worthy discussing or isn't being discussed in the "right" way. I can see this happening on the forums, if you don't see that or don't agree with that... Ok? Whatever? Each person with their own impressions.

    I disagree with the tone, though. If you're insulting specific people, you're wrong, and I don't disagree… But I've seen people literally flame discussions simply because they didn't enjoy the tone of the person talking, like the dude that posted about job balance and people were hands down rude with them just because they used the word copium. IMO the community here is very sensitive with tone, they easily get upset if you don't use specific words, if you're sassy or even a bit ironic. It's easy to take this "your tone undermine your opinion" and turn into an "if you don't discuss things the same way I do, seeing from all the sides I do, you're wrong". Quickly, discussions turn into "you're just whining" and stuff like that.
    Course it is, but those that use this will also be in the minority. This is just called the negativity bias. Besides, it goes back to my original point; People reap what they sow.

    The reason it undermines their own argument is typically because of the means with which they present their argument or criticism. People will only construe these instances as people being upset because they aren't getting their own way, with comments such as troll, bait or petty. Almost to where the discussion itself becomes secondary to ad-hominem contesting. Genuine and valid discussions and criticisms quickly devolve into meaningless debate which leads to thread upon thread to be created for the self-same topic, each doomed to devolve and eventually die for the same reason as the previous. It has very little to do with trying to police or indoctrinate people into my line of thinking (personally I couldn't care less if people debate the way I do), but rather just a concern, and a perfectly valid one in the context of keeping the discussion meaningful.

    For clarity (as per the initial edit); make a statement such as "You're casual, you wouldn't understand" - See how long it takes for a remark such as that to derail an entire thread or topic of discussion into an "us vs them" situation.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 01-12-2022 at 07:39 AM. Reason: Clarity

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