I thought people might be exaggerating about SMN

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That's what hate about the new smn crowd. They are talking like this job is going to be build upon. The shocker is going to be real is when 7.0 rolls around and this version of smn is going to get nothing like drk, mch, and the healers did this time around.

Maybe just maybe it would be a healthier idea to look at things in a more positive light rather than all doom and gloom. DRK may be in an unfortunate state but MCH is still fun and healers just got Sage and if things go well with that job then perhaps we'll see further improvements in the other healers as a result.

As for Summoner, despite the utter failings of pre-6.0 SMN they did manage to add in a new summon in Stormblood and Shadowbringers, with Endwalker revisiting the older egis and giving them new life as one-off full summons. Now that the job has something that it barely had for the past 8 years, a clear identity, the logical processes of deciding what to add to it becomes much easier.

What have people been asking for? More summons besides the original ones we got. Leviathan, Ramuh, Shiva, and Alexander are all names people throw around frequently. These could come as ogcds to weave in, added gem summons post-Phoenix, and so on. They could add additional abilities to use during gem summons like Blood Pact: Ward or Blood Pact: Rage from FFXI, for all sorts of effects similar to the ideas above that draw from the White/Black Magic effects Summons had for FFIII.

In any case, I see no reason to lose hope in Summoner and I hope those other classes get revisited at some point as well. In the worst case scenario I'd just switch mains to something else if something seriously goes wrong, but for now Summoner is my go to for pretty much everything.

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Maybe just maybe it would be a healthier idea to look at things in a more positive light rather than all doom and gloom. DRK may be in an unfortunate state but MCH is still fun and healers just got Sage and if things go well with that job then perhaps we'll see further improvements in the other healers as a result.

As for Summoner, despite the utter failings of pre-6.0 SMN they did manage to add in a new summon in Stormblood and Shadowbringers, with Endwalker revisiting the older egis and giving them new life as one-off full summons. Now that the job has something that it barely had for the past 8 years, a clear identity, the logical processes of deciding what to add to it becomes much easier.

What have people been asking for? More summons besides the original ones we got. Leviathan, Ramuh, Shiva, and Alexander are all names people throw around frequently. These could come as ogcds to weave in, added gem summons post-Phoenix, and so on. They could add additional abilities to use during gem summons like Blood Pact: Ward or Blood Pact: Rage from FFXI, for all sorts of effects similar to the ideas above that draw from the White/Black Magic effects Summons had for FFIII.

In any case, I see no reason to lose hope in Summoner and I hope those other classes get revisited at some point as well. In the worst case scenario I'd just switch mains to something else if something seriously goes wrong, but for now Summoner is my go to for pretty much everything.

Wow.....you're still talking. Have you written anything worth reading yet? Looks like the answer is still no

You act like SE has a trend to revisit and add more to a job, but over the last two expansions, they have taken away more than adding to it. Ninjas unique utility and healer DPS comes immediately come to mind.
Remember they were more than ready to remove bard song buffs in 5.0 until people started complaining about it.

Like if I had reasons to be optimistic I would be but yoshi and his team doesn't deserve it