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    Xiaoki's Avatar
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    Balar Avagnar
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SpeckledBurd View Post
    Only based on week 1 clears before the overall numbers have stabilized. In Normal mode, the dungeons, and the extremes, Monk is only beating Ninja in plays. Hell, in P1S, Monk is the second least played job, once again only beating Ninja. Once more people clear in the next couple of weeks Monk's clear numbers are pretty much certain to fall down there.

    That said, I actually do like the current Monk quite a bit more than any iteration of the job other than Heavensward from a pure gameplay perspective, even if I think there's quite a few things that could be improved about it.
    No one is submitting new parses to the Extreme raids, Normal Pandemonium, or the Expert dungeons. There's no need to. They were on farm the first day.
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    Micela Arzur
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    Shiva
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jotaku View Post
    The new monk isnt for everybody.
    Old MNK wasn´t for everybody too and yet ppl cried the hell out until we got the boring state we´ve now. "Too increase its playerbase" is kind of laughable when this actually didn´t happen and may become worse in the future. The core reason why MNK is picked in raids is because it´s too strong, not because so many ppl seem to enjoy it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jotaku View Post
    but is in a good direction. I like that the devs take risk like this to rethink a job, and not to be stuck in an old "gonna go fast" job only...
    The direction is bad. We lost so many stuff to get 3 burstbuttons we press every 40 (60) seconds.

    SE didn´t rethink anything anyway. They just took a lot of stuff away. MNK has still the same core rotation and skills, even the speed is the same. All what they´ve done is to get ride of any oGCD´s but chakra and 4 positionals. PB is still the same, just cutted. Freeform at its end is just another QoL, but we still sit on TK/BS spam most of the time or rotate 123. The only time we gonna make use of the freeform is after the RP-PB to play braindead-mode.
    Yeah, some ppl didn´t like positonals, got it. You guys had the chance to stuck on any other melee, hell RPR would be for you now, braindead and slow af. But no... MNK needed to be cutted for dumb reasons, to cater lazy players. Every 2nd boss has a full circle on top, just congratz... you can stay on your spot all day long and search for the right button. Netflix-time i guess.

    God bless we still have Anatman for the major-increase of 1-3DPS in transition-phases.


    Quote Originally Posted by Xiaoki View Post
    No one is submitting new parses to the Extreme raids, Normal Pandemonium, or the Expert dungeons. There's no need to. They were on farm the first day.
    It doesn´t matter if something is on farm or not. We talk about the pick-rate, the overall popularity. It was a welcome argument from ppl who´ve been against all the positionals or MNK overall, "Monk has the least playerbase, that´s why it needs changes."
    So we´ve only ff.logs imo and it clearly shows that MNK isn´t more popular than before, no matter which content we look at. The new savage raids might be somehow different, but the reason is obvious. Any week 1 or even week 2 static would be dumb to no to bring MNK or RPR or both with them. And i´m convinced that another reason why MNK is close to others is, that NIN got fckd up and half the playerbase stucks on RPR / SMN because they´re easy and shiny. Without being broken... MNK would lose hard.

    The changes didn´t help in any way to get more ppl into MNK. Even if we say "1 vet left, 1 newbie came", then the changes are still worse than good. To fck up a whole class-playerbase and lots of vets, to cater ppl who might play MNK here and there or because it´s overtuned imo, is a joke. MNK has been unique but now it´s just easy peasy homogenized for some dumb reasons.

    EDIT: Btw last day Extremes... https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statisti...s=DPS&sample=1 , or dungeons https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statisti...s=DPS&sample=1 ppl still log any shit out there.
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    Last edited by ssunny2008; 01-10-2022 at 11:27 PM.