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  1. #31
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    thank you for your answer.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    From a stream that has been host today betwen yoship and other members, they have talked about some stuff including some of the balance they are going to do (not mentioning DRK at all as usual but saying that's doesn't mean no other jobs are going to se changes), you can find the translation on Reddit discord.
    You mean the stream that was directed towards Japanese audiences that was only translated by fans?

    Until the patch is actually out I'd treat it as usual corporate lipservice and not get your hopes up.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    Here is our official answer:

    ・作っている方もいるので罵詈雑言だけは止めていただきたい
    →ちょっと言葉が強すぎるところがある、スタッフが凹んでしまうのでエンターを押す前に考えてほしい
    Staff members DO READ the official forums of all language. Please exercise moderation and be civil when providing feedback.
    -> There are several posts where people were indeed providing feedback with strong language. This will discourage the staff members so please be polite and always double check and think through before pressing enter.


    Considering how active we have been in the forum and the overall reactions about DRK status compared to other jobs/stuff of the game in the last years this basically could be in great part aimed to us, in other words it's probable the current sad state of DRK gameplay experience could be like that bcs we have been so rude they choose to don't adress anything and keep the line bcs of it, independent of how much that could feed back the frustration and rudeness against them.
    Idk what to think to be honest, i understand they posture but at the same time i don't find it to be a proper solution either if that is actually the reason DRK gameplay is so horrible right now, it could have been fixed if they have posted in our threads telling us our feedback is being to rude and they would ignore it bcs of it way more sooner, not only we would see them interacting with us and we see they read us and correct our manners way more early they could have prevented the current levels of animosity against them.
    Bhahaha so on top of being unprofessional biased inept hacks, they're also petty. ZERO perspective.
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  4. #34
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    I'm still high on Doomium. So I expect little beyond DRK staying the same from this patch.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aluja89 View Post
    Bhahaha so on top of being unprofessional biased inept hacks, they're also petty. ZERO perspective.
    This kind of gratuitous insult does not help in any way. More like giving excuses for dismissing this forum.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    From a stream that has been host today betwen yoship and other members, they have talked about some stuff including some of the balance they are going to do (not mentioning DRK at all as usual but saying that's doesn't mean no other jobs are going to se changes), you can find the translation on Reddit discord.
    So this was a general comment and not specific to tanks? I absolutely think they look at dps forums, just not tank forums.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danelo View Post
    So this was a general comment and not specific to tanks? I absolutely think they look at dps forums, just not tank forums.
    it's a general comment but consider the tank forum history, DRK threads history to be more precise and the huge amount of feedback and issues with the job unadressed i won't be surprised that comment is being aimed to us and Healer sub-forum too, i pretty much belive they see our forum and our complains and they choose to don't do anything or worst just the contrary of what we ask despite being so many ppl posting feedback with good faith in hope to make DRK have a unique and better designed gameplay experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mekhana View Post
    I'm still high on Doomium. So I expect little beyond DRK staying the same from this patch.
    This is just realism. DRK has a lot of Savage clears, so people play it. Every hard metric says that DRK is fine so they can't justify putting man hours into reworks.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalaam View Post
    This kind of gratuitous insult does not help in any way. More like giving excuses for dismissing this forum.
    Fair but they have ignored DRK players for a LONG time. They didn’t put out any info regarding the direction of the job or anything in response to criticism. They’ve created the gap between devs and players by not responding when frustrated DRK fans reached out on valid concerns. They fanned the frustration so of course DRK fans are angry, we are angry. When you love and are passionate about something it hurts to see it destroyed like the way DRK has been treated by the devs - op did A good job laying that out. A curse word or two is not going to destroy their sensibilities as adults. If they are hurt that their work product is not appreciated then I’m glad the message was received. Now it’s time to see past the anger and frustration in many posts, to look at why. It shouldnt be hard since the vast majority of messages outlining problems with DRK have no curse words.
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    It's hard to say—a comment on anything would be nice, though the "we've heard of no issues about blood weapon" was unfortunately telling, given that they have been giving feedback in the JP tank forums for a while on it. While I do sympathize that seeing vitriol (some of which has come from me, even) can be quite demotivational, especially with how much more difficult development seems to have gotten lately, patch 4.3 felt like the last moment any actual Dark Knight grievances were listened to. In about four months, that will have been four years ago.

    I understand that in the grand scheme of things a few loud voices on a tank forum seem pretty unimportant, and while a lot of it can be repetitive, there are definitely plenty of valid complaints that at least deserve to be addressed even if it is in a small sub-note or something. Although they could certainly choose to keep disregarding much of it, I fear that will only make actual discussion on the job much more disorderly. It was already not great before, but with Endwalker it feels like almost no one is ever on the same page.
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