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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    ...no? No. This was never even remotely anything near the truth. All evidence ever asserted to be in favor of this was honestly nonsense, even before we learned in Endwalker what the Blessing of Light actually was.

    In fact, I think the most telling argument against 'Hydaelyn tempered us' was always that, after we learned she was a primal, not one single person on any side of the story that would have reason to put these puzzle pieces together raised the notion that we might be tempered.
    • Emet-Selch didn't, despite being the guy to say that he himself was tempered and who loves a play to make us seem equal.
    • Elidibus didn't, despite being a primal himself and being desperate for justification that he was the good guy.
    • Fandaniel didn't, despite having all the reason in the world to sow chaos and set us off.
    • The Scions didn't, despite learning very specifically about the symptoms of tempering and how to detect them, and talking very directly about the WoL's relationship with Hydaelyn.

    When the writers reject every opportunity to bring in the plot point you've decided is obvious, it might be time to admit you're not onto something.
    I thought the matter of Hydaelyn tempering us was pretty settled when we learned that the blessing of light was a simple traveller's ward that protects against aetheric corruption.

    Indeed, it seems like Hydaelyn'a whole philosphy is about giving you the means to think, wander, feel... etc. for yourself. Something the spirit of tempering goes against.

    Also, tempering was something that could be scientifically and objectively measured by characters in the world. And cured. If we were tempered surely someone would have given us a porxie.

    Also, the conversation with Y'sthola has her showing up and examining you too see if your aether was corrupted, like it was back in the first. And she saw nothing out of the ordinary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KariTheFox View Post
    I thought the matter of Hydaelyn tempering us was pretty settled when we learned that the blessing of light was a simple traveller's ward that protects against aetheric corruption.

    Indeed, it seems like Hydaelyn'a whole philosphy is about giving you the means to think, wander, feel... etc. for yourself. Something the spirit of tempering goes against.

    Also, tempering was something that could be scientifically and objectively measured by characters in the world. And cured. If we were tempered surely someone would have given us a porxie.

    Also, the conversation with Y'sthola has her showing up and examining you too see if your aether was corrupted, like it was back in the first. And she saw nothing out of the ordinary.
    Personally I thought the matter of Hydaelyn tempering us was pretty settled when Ifrit directly and clearly stated that we weren't back in A Realm Reborn. Like, if anyone can be considered a subject matter expert in what tempering looks like, surely it's Ifrit. But since I know not everyone agrees with me that he can be considered an authoritative source, I went elsewhere, since the people that disagree with that usually consider either the Scions or (more often) the Ascians to be authoritative.

    Basically the only prediction in all of Endwalker that I absolutely nailed was 'people who think the Blessing is tempering wouldn't believe Hydaelyn herself coming down and saying it wasn't', and sure enough, she did exactly that and people didn't believe her!
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