Quote Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume View Post
I would argue savage is little more than an after thought to keep the sweaty ones busy. Yoshi P personally wants a hardcore, difficult engaging game, but has admitted he knows his audience doesnt want that. They know who their audience is.

Queue times were definitely more through the roof when new MSQ story released then when savage released. But honestly, thats an equally poor measure of the games health as much as content creator engagement is. And yes, I would definitely prefer, and believe the game would be better suited for more casual content. Emotes, RP settings, glam, more relic grind style quests, even more story and out of combat things to do.

I think the most generous estimate I was able to find a few weeks ago for the typical savage completion rate for a current tier was around 25%. Honestly, I think that is pretty unlikely itself, or skewed somehow that it would even be nearly that high. Why waste so many resources on something the minority even participates in?
So I'm a "sweaty one" now? I'm trying to have a legitimate conversation, but you keep speaking about me and my entire FFXIV social group with really derisive terms. I'm putting a lot of effort into being polite here. I don't feel that effort is being reciprocated.

The hardest content will obviously have less people that engage with it than casual content. Candy Crush has more players than Dark Souls does, so I guess Dark Souls doesn't deserve to exist?

If Savage/Ultimates goes away, what happens to the crafter treadmill? If there's no need to craft high quality, top end gear, there's no need to spend months gathering top end materials, making HQ crafter gear, spending millions upon millions of gil pentamelding it, and then spending thousands of tomestones from daily roulettes (trickling back into the more casual content) building the higher ilvl crafted gear.

And even on a lower level than Savage/Ultimate, there are EX primals that a *MUCH* larger bulk of the player base engages in.

Again, you can choose not to engage in a piece of content and that's totally fine, but please avoid such broad and dismissive strokes as saying that a game is "better" without it. There's a reason FFXIV is more popular than Second Life.