Has the WoW crowd taken over now?

[Floortank]

And yes, this is the famous "mostly" pleasant and friendly FFXIV community...

The people doing savage aren't even 1/100th of the community. Do you expect literally everyone to be perfect?

[Floortank]

It isn't the WoW players. It's the raider mentality.

This sort of environment about raiding is precisely why I don't do it. Learning to do new content and wanting to have the best gear and the like isn't a bad thing. So it is frustrating to see so many people try and gatekeep it under some misguided belief that raiders with experience are somehow better people than those who aren't the same.

Raiding became toxic a long time ago in MMOs and here is no different.

Agree completely, unfortunately. And I do Savage through PF. You run into a lot of really bad eggs.

[Saraide]

If you are a dps and dont even crack the 4k mark then you are clearly not ready for savage, you'll be a massive liability on your party and the dps check will probably not be met because of you. That's just straight up how it is. 4k dps is low even for tanks.
The rest of those are the typical PF clownery, could always be someone seriously trying to get a decent group together or could be someone just looking for easy carries.

[Saraide]

The people doing savage aren't even 1/100th of the community. Do you expect literally everyone to be perfect?

25% of all players max level players at the time had a no-echo clear logged on e5s. So that 'not even 1/100th' number is just straight up a lie.

[Tanis_Ebonhart]

No.

They have been converted. Now they all enjoy Cat girls too.

[iheartlove42]

This is normal for extremes and savages, unless they're doing practice runs. Now if people are doing it on the normal modes they're just an asshole looking for a carry.

It's not surprising, most of the extremes and savages people can be elitist tryhards.

[Sathona]

Going through PF the last couple days, I see lots of “advertising” like:

“4k dps = instakick”
“no clowns please”
“2 fails = kick”
“know what to do there will be no talk or stay out”
“I’m doing this for 2 days please no more failures”

Generally stuff I would typically expect to see in WoW, also noticed a harshening of tone in duties like alliance raids.

It’s sad that the same thing has arrived here now.

'4k dps = instakick" is reportable, aka easy to deal with.
they literally admit to be using a tool Yoshi said "pls dont use it" xD

the rest are something ive been seeing since i started playing tbh.

[HReincarnate]

Those PFs have been here since ARR and will be here till the heat death of the universe (or ff14's end of service - whichever comes first). If you weren't looking for negative things to blame on WoW players, you would never have noticed a difference :P

[Kaurhz]

Nah this has always been a thing. I remember it as early as 'skip soar or disband', which practically littered every PF entry for Zurvan, be it farm, clear or otherwise. In fact it used to be so bad where certain classes would be omitted from being able to participate in the Party Finder, or would be knocked from the party outright.

It's just more apparent now with the growing surge of players and the newly released raid tier. You'll find it'll generally simmer down as the weeks go by and people are more geared - Giving that leeway.

In this regard I can say in some spheres this community is just no different from WoW.

[Ransu]

I haven't seen any PF's like that at all on aether. That said, anyone requiring a dps amount in their description is absolutely reportable. Just report them and move on. Unlike WoW, this game actually still has GM's that respond pretty quickly and deal with those situations really fast. Utilize the report feature, it actually works in this game unlike WoW.