The MSQ Endwalker Trial Bosses are WAY too hard for newer players to FFXIV

[kaynide]

Just imho, you're not a "new" player if you are doing level 80+ content, or even really 70+ content.

If you boosted to start at level 80, well there's your problem. Working as intended.

[Krotoan]

I wonder what would happen if you turn down the visual effects of the game and use the Trust system to fight Hydalen? If that would make things easier for you (Parkinson's) that's one way around it.

They are speaking of the Solo 1v1 instance that's part of the story quests, NOT the trial. You cannot have any assistance in that fight. It's always the player (WoL) VS Venat.

[ItMe]

I am basically stuck where I am with no way forward.

You are using BLM, correct?
Have you considered trying to power level up a class with a lower skill floor? Swapping to an "easier" job would help.
I'd recommend:
-- WAR (it has fewer actions per minute, like BLM, and power levelling a tank will give you good que times).
-- If you wanna stick with a Caster (I wouldn't blame you, your glamour is very nice) I find both RDM and SMN are both much easier on the execution and don't ask as much of you when the boss starts throwing everything at you.


What's your iLVL?
It looks like you're using level 86 gear of about iLVL 539, correct?
Your BLM is 89. I don't know what the iLVL synch is on that duty. Could you try buying better gear from some NPC?
It looks like there is a vendor selling level 88 gear here:



Also, your current materia is nice, but it's almost all Spell Speed. It sounds like your main problem is dealing enough damage in time, so if you're up for it you could also swap in some more Crit materia.


After you fail the solo duty... twice(?) it gives you the option to tone the difficulty down. What is the furthest you've gotten on the lower difficulties? I'm having a little trouble understanding how far you've progged from your description.


Also, have you looked up how BLM "works" in Endwalker?
I don't doubt your skills or capability to play it, I just know I can think I'm doing something right, when actually I misunderstood something and it's holding me back.


You're stuck for now, but we can help you through this~

[Eraden]

You are using BLM, correct?
Have you considered trying to power level up a class with a lower skill floor? Swapping to an "easier" job would help.
I'd recommend:
-- WAR (it has fewer actions per minute, like BLM, and power levelling a tank will give you good que times).
-- If you wanna stick with a Caster (I wouldn't blame you, your glamour is very nice) I find both RDM and SMN are both much easier on the execution and don't ask as much of you when the boss starts throwing everything at you.


What's your iLVL?
It looks like you're using level 86 gear of about iLVL 539, correct?
Your BLM is 89. I don't know what the iLVL synch is on that duty. Could you try buying better gear from some NPC?
It looks like there is a vendor selling level 88 gear here:



Also, your current materia is nice, but it's almost all Spell Speed. It sounds like your main problem is dealing enough damage in time, so if you're up for it you could also swap in some more Crit materia.


After you fail the solo duty... twice(?) it gives you the option to tone the difficulty down. What is the furthest you've gotten on the lower difficulties? I'm having a little trouble understanding how far you've progged from your description.


Also, have you looked up how BLM "works" in Endwalker?
I don't doubt your skills or capability to play it, I just know I can think I'm doing something right, when actually I misunderstood something and it's holding me back.


You're stuck for now, but we can help you through this~

Thank you very much for all those suggestions, ItMe! I really appreciate that! Sadly, the problem seems to be mostly my condition. I can get through the stages relatively unscathed but they take a toll as my condition is triggered by stress and emotion. By the time I get to the final part, where the orbs start rolling in, my brain goes into overload and that literally messes up my motor reflexes. I begin shaking rather severely. Picture Michael J Fox when he is experiencing his condition as an example of the kind of difficulty it can create. However, that having been said, I have been watching more videos and there may be some recourse at hand for me. At the very easiest level, in the final phase with the orbs, the damage taken by the spikes, can be out healed by one's own natural regeneration. If I plant myself right on top of Venat and then make liberal use of Leylines and Triplecast to cast as fast as possible and then priority target orbs that are closest or are not going to die due to the spikes themselves, I might have a chance at beating this fight. Of course, coupled with this is the need to pick a time where my condition is at it's least troublesome. It comes and goes and I have bad times and then not-quite-so-bad-times. I haven't given up entirely just yet.

[Mysticunicycle]

Let me start off by saying the trials are easy for me, because I’m used to harder fights like those, but my friends who are new to the game, couldnt for the life of them understand what to do when doing the Zodiark trial. There’s honestly no need to make MSQ trial bosses that hard.

I just think it’s a bit extreme.

ex1 is 100% stack all the time. there's not much to it. ex2 has a little bit going on, but if you've been leveling your character from lvl 1 you've done like 40 trials by now. Nothing here is mind shattering. It's all within the scope of a gradual difficulty progression. Wiping a couple of times on the trials is fine, pretty much every group that saw them for the first time during the first week wiped.

[Merrigan]

No but people get abusive if you die more than once. And not just one person.

On normal mod ? I would be curious to know what you call "abusive". 'Cause I've seen my fair part of wipes and mistakes ; and usually, people just rez or explain strats.

[Eraden]

OMG, OMG, OMG......I finally got the Venat fight completed! I did the things I mentioned in an earlier post and my condition didn't flare up so badly tonight and I got it done! YAYYYYYY!

[Driavna]

OMG, OMG, OMG......I finally got the Venat fight completed! I did the things I mentioned in an earlier post and my condition didn't flare up so badly tonight and I got it done! YAYYYYYY!

Congrats! Nice to hear you overcome Venat!

[Driavna]

On normal mod ? I would be curious to know what you call "abusive". 'Cause I've seen my fair part of wipes and mistakes ; and usually, people just rez or explain strats.

I mean, there is bound to be a wierdo not aware of FFXIV strict policies about harassment that will do it once. Generally speaking at worst people just quit, replacements come and it's usually clear after that.

[Avidria]

No but people get abusive if you die more than once. And not just one person.

Some do yeah. Block and/or report them then. Most of the time after a few wipes I either see people try to explain what's going wrong, tell people to stop doing x, or if it's actually a full pug group then sometimes people just leave. I've only had a handful of non extreme pug duties where I've actually even seen more than like three wipes at all and one of those was Titania normal, and it was a while ago but nothing stood out as bad enough for me to remember it being said. I have had worst wipe fests in alliance raids where people can get feisty, but it's uuuusually just in general or at x role and I've seen people just get kicked every now and then.

I can count on one hand the times someone was genuinely nasty to me for messing up, and it was actually one clown specifically who spent an entire dungeon being rude and passive aggressive because I apparently wasn't using battle voice often enough lmao
Point being most people probably won't say much if anything, especially if it's only one wipe.