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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier_Firbold View Post
    [*]Server issues
    Need I say more? The excuse of covid doesn't fit when I can easily go onto a server hosting company and pay for a server to be setup to the same level as the servers which Square use in their datacenters in the EU. With almost 24 hour deployable time. This can easily be seen here and here

    All this while the player subscription numbers have increased by almost a million in the last 16 months seen here
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    Updates Regarding the Addition of a New Logical Data Center and Worlds

    Since July 2021, in order to accommodate the significant increase in the number of new players, we have been working towards building a new logical data center and adding new Worlds. However, due to the effects of the COVID-19 pandemic, we have not been able to make any additions due to suspension of semiconductor production at manufacturing factories, decrease in production quantities, as well as a shortage of raw materials. Although we are investing much more money than usual, our attempts to alleviate the ongoing congestion situation are being delayed due to the physical shortage of server equipment.

    With the help of IT equipment vendors from all around the world, we are slowly beginning to receive information about delivery dates and figures. Considering the high specification requirements for FFXIV servers, along with the fact that adding a single logical data center requires hundreds of servers, we invariably need much more time, but we are starting to see some progress. In line with this, the Server and Infrastructure teams are working together to plan for new additions, and we hope to be able to provide some sort of roadmap by the end of January 2022.

    We are considering adding servers to each region, especially plans for a large-scale addition in North America and Europe, and will be looking at the number of servers, infrastructure construction time, power issues, and server rack situation to see if we should do this sequentially or in one big push. Either way, the plan is to introduce a large number of additions, which we intend to carry out quickly and safely with as minimal inconvenience to our players as possible, and we will follow up regarding this matter as we progress.

    Please stop acting like buying a couple racks of baseline servers is enough. Please don't smugly show you've "found" the equipment when you know nothing of the process.

    we've been over this again and again that even if these WERE the right hardware and they were to order them.. try hitting those order buttons and then wait for the delivery commitment that follows. It will be months out if not outright denied because of a lack of supply. This has been the case for several IT professionals with first hand accounts of orders being delayed, cancelled, or outright rejected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Please stop acting like buying a couple racks of baseline servers is enough. Please don't smugly show you've "found" the equipment when you know nothing of the process.

    we've been over this again and again that even if these WERE the right hardware and they were to order them.. try hitting those order buttons and then wait for the delivery commitment that follows. It will be months out if not outright denied because of a lack of supply. This has been the case for several IT professionals with first hand accounts of orders being delayed, cancelled, or outright rejected.


    Server setup 1-5 days for this specific Pretty hefty rig.

    But you are 100% correct, I do not know the exact specifications of the servers nor how many would be needed. It's simply conjecture on my part.

    What isn't conjecture though is the proof of the lie that these things are impossible to come by. I'm sorry but that's simply untrue. Sure they'd have to spend more, which I believe is why it's not happening.

    Ah it didn't attach my image, See Here

    Out of the 1300+ people plus currently waiting in the Q to get in. Let's say they're all paying a standard sub fee without the mognet App.

    That's £9.50 x £1300 - £12,350 - Per month, and that's only the people waiting in the Q on Lich. I'm sure you can do the rough maths on the true income of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier_Firbold View Post


    Server setup 1-5 days for this specific Pretty hefty rig.

    But you are 100% correct, I do not know the exact specifications of the servers nor how many would be needed. It's simply conjecture on my part.

    What isn't conjecture though is the proof of the lie that these things are impossible to come by. I'm sorry but that's simply untrue. Sure they'd have to spend more, which I believe is why it's not happening.
    if you don't know what exactly square would need to make it work, and make it work stable at that, than how exactly does what you linked "proof" that they could simply go ahead and buy what they need ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiudo View Post
    if you don't know what exactly square would need to make it work, and make it work stable at that, than how exactly does what you linked "proof" that they could simply go ahead and buy what they need ?
    Apologies, the question I was answering was the fallacy that servers en masse are no longer available. Which, by providing that link, can be seen as false. I have stated several times I know not of the power the XIV servers require though I'd hazard a guess they're not as powerful as the one I linked to there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier_Firbold View Post
    Apologies, the question I was answering was the fallacy that servers en masse are no longer available. Which, by providing that link, can be seen as false. I have stated several times I know not of the power the XIV servers require though I'd hazard a guess they're not as powerful as the one I linked to there.
    So you're gonna present yourself as having a case while admitting that you dunno squat diddly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier_Firbold View Post
    Apologies, the question I was answering was the fallacy that servers en masse are no longer available. Which, by providing that link, can be seen as false. I have stated several times I know not of the power the XIV servers require though I'd hazard a guess they're not as powerful as the one I linked to there.
    Heh.... Just one of those options isn't even a 1/1000th of the power they need.

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...65#post4085765

    That's just one row of several racks of one section of a server of one data center.

    There is no fallacy, there's nothing that compares to their hardware in compatibility and speed and connection routing. That picture is showing 28 X 34 million USD in current over priced components, if they could even get them. This is not taking into account deployment time, assembly, internal testing, latancy routing, cooling etc etc etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier_Firbold View Post


    Server setup 1-5 days for this specific Pretty hefty rig.

    But you are 100% correct, I do not know the exact specifications of the servers nor how many would be needed. It's simply conjecture on my part.
    You admit you have no idea.. however you continue with:

    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier_Firbold View Post

    What isn't conjecture though is the proof of the lie that these things are impossible to come by. I'm sorry but that's simply untrue. Sure they'd have to spend more, which I believe is why it's not happening.
    All you see is "High performance server" and "available now". It's obvious you did not read my response in totality. These consumer level offerings aren't what they need. You googled "server" and point at the first thing you find that says for sale and go "SEE! I FOUND SOME" when you have no idea what specs, location, access, bandwidth, compatibility or layout they require.

    Your accusation is PURE conjecture coming from smug ignorance. You don't know. You have PROVEN you don't know by your assertion they could have this all setup in days and just.. somehow plug it in to the existing servers they have somewhere else and make it work but they're worried about money and THAT'S why they've shut down sales and advertising... right?

    Let alone that multiple IT professionals (myself included, I work for an ISP in the NOC) have related first hand experience in ordering hardware being advertised as available and then being quoted MONTHS out for delivery, sometimes even being told "oh sorry, we can't fulfill that".


    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier_Firbold View Post
    Ah it didn't attach my image, See Here

    Out of the 1300+ people plus currently waiting in the Q to get in. Let's say they're all paying a standard sub fee without the mognet App.

    That's £9.50 x £1300 - £12,350 - Per month, and that's only the people waiting in the Q on Lich. I'm sure you can do the rough maths on the true income of the game.

    And now you're showing you have no idea what it costs to pay a studio full of developers and the monthly costs in electricity, bandwith, maintenance, repairs, monitoring, moderation, and realty to run the game we play.

    Yeah, they probably make a pretty profit, but this doesn't mean they're willing to tank ALL their profits into overpaying for things, let alone that those things aren't available.


    Give up on this last one. You snarked on a far larger bite than you know.

    Complain about the story, and the content all you like. That's all subjective. Enjoy the game or don't. Whatever. Yes there's lots of things that can be improved. Cool suggest away.

    Just stop making these wildly ignorant and smarmy claims about things you know nothing about that are widely published over all industries to be fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    You admit you have no idea.. however you continue with:


    All you see is "High performance server" and "available now". It's obvious you did not read my response in totality. These consumer level offerings aren't what they need. You googled "server" and point at the first thing you find that says for sale and go "SEE! I FOUND SOME" when you have no idea what specs, location, access, bandwidth, compatibility or layout they require.

    Your accusation is PURE conjecture coming from smug ignorance. You don't know. You have PROVEN you don't know by your assertion they could have this all setup in days and just.. somehow plug it in to the existing servers they have somewhere else and make it work but they're worried about money and THAT'S why they've shut down sales and advertising... right?

    Let alone that multiple IT professionals (myself included, I work for an ISP in the NOC) have related first hand experience in ordering hardware being advertised as available and then being quoted MONTHS out for delivery, sometimes even being told "oh sorry, we can't fulfill that".





    And now you're showing you have no idea what it costs to pay a studio full of developers and the monthly costs in electricity, bandwith, maintenance, repairs, monitoring, moderation, and realty to run the game we play.

    Yeah, they probably make a pretty profit, but this doesn't mean they're willing to tank ALL their profits into overpaying for things, let alone that those things aren't available.


    Give up on this last one. You snarked on a far larger bite than you know.

    Complain about the story, and the content all you like. That's all subjective. Enjoy the game or don't. Whatever. Yes there's lots of things that can be improved. Cool suggest away.

    Just stop making these wildly ignorant and smarmy claims about things you know nothing about that are widely published over all industries to be fact.
    Yes, it's well known SE horribly underfunds this game. Maybe NFTs will add more revenue for new hires /s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velnora View Post
    Yes, it's well known SE horribly underfunds this game. Maybe NFTs will add more revenue for new hires /s
    Yes they do and it would be wonderful if they'd spend more money for stuff, but the amount of money necessary to be thrown at server manufacturers for them to forsake their previous orders and destroy their reputations JUST to supply SE with the servers it's needs to upgrade is likely astronomical. As in negate all profits for the year if not years astronomical. You'd need to assure those companies they'd be SET with this purchase , at least until they could rework and rebuild a customer base.


    It sucks that SE treats FFXIV like it lives under the stairs and siphons off the profits to fund other games, but this particular solution isn't going to be solved by throwing any reasonable amount of money at it.
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