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  1. #1
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    Sylve's Avatar
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    Lyote Sharaia
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AbysmalDuck View Post
    Dear New FFXIV Players:

    Even though you pay your subscription fees, I deem my existence to be superior to yours and request that you play the game the way I say.

    Signed,
    FFXIV Elitist

    /s
    WHile you are being sarcastic, the "You dont pay my sub" defense is more common than you think.

    Just last night i did my Expert Roulette as Sage and landed in the 90 MSQ dungeon. 6 minute elapse, standing at the first boss (A very common occurence).
    All 3 members of the party failed mechanics over and over, which caused me no small amount of stress keeping them alive.
    On the second boss, the Reaper was offered a tip on upcoming mechanics of the boss to watch out for and was told "Chill i wanna do this totally blind"
    And proceeded to mess up mechanic after mechanic.

    On the final boss, he managed to get Doomed 3 times, drawing ALL of my resources to keep him alive while the other 2 continued to fail mechanics, leading to all 3 of them being dead at one point.
    The Reaper demanding to do a blind run directly led to the Tank's death, which in turn led to the other DPS being killed by the boss when the Tank went down.

    To that Reaper and ALL others who proclaim "You dont pay my sub"
    This is a god damn team game. If you're unwilling to work as a team, don't force your poor decisions onto people who have to deal with the mess you create due to your inability to play nicely with a group.

    Trust is perfect for doing blind runs where available. Dont make other people miserable for your own selfish reasons.

    Quote Originally Posted by DerpyWhiskers View Post
    One issue with the Trust system is if you die, the healer can't rez you and there's no players to help with advice and mechs. You could be there in the 90+ dungeon for hours and hours and hours resetting and still never get it.
    Trust NPCs in dungeons execute all mechanics properly outside of some scripted "accidents" due to AI personality quirks.
    You can quite literally just follow the NPCs around for the whole fight and win even without understanding the reason why the NPCs are doing what they're doing.
    The NPCs literally guide you through the mechanics. There is no reason for someone to fail endlessly in a Trust run outside of a sheer refusal to take notice of their surroundings.
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    Last edited by Sylve; 01-04-2022 at 06:21 PM.

  2. #2
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    Avidria's Avatar
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    Avi Taro
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    WHile you are being sarcastic, the "You dont pay my sub" defense is more common than you think.

    Just last night i did my Expert Roulette as Sage and landed in the 90 MSQ dungeon. 6 minute elapse, standing at the first boss (A very common occurence).
    All 3 members of the party failed mechanics over and over, which caused me no small amount of stress keeping them alive.
    On the second boss, the Reaper was offered a tip on upcoming mechanics of the boss to watch out for and was told "Chill i wanna do this totally blind"
    And proceeded to mess up mechanic after mechanic.

    On the final boss, he managed to get Doomed 3 times, drawing ALL of my resources to keep him alive while the other 2 continued to fail mechanics, leading to all 3 of them being dead at one point.
    The Reaper demanding to do a blind run directly led to the Tank's death, which in turn led to the other DPS being killed by the boss when the Tank went down.
    Honestly at that point I'd just leave the reaper dead lmao
    Being new and learning is one thing, but after a certain point the dude who's dying to every other mechanic stops being worth the resources to raise. If the group can clear without them they can take the time on the ground to watch and learn the fight, cause if it's that bad it'll probably be faster to just 3 man it than to keep throwing bodies at the boss and possibly (probably) wipe again.
    (3)
    "Run when you have to, fight when you must, rest when you can." - Elyas Machera, The Wheel of Time

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    kejakalope's Avatar
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    Calith Thrace
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Avidria View Post
    Honestly at that point I'd just leave the reaper dead lmao
    Being new and learning is one thing, but after a certain point the dude who's dying to every other mechanic stops being worth the resources to raise. If the group can clear without them they can take the time on the ground to watch and learn the fight, cause if it's that bad it'll probably be faster to just 3 man it than to keep throwing bodies at the boss and possibly (probably) wipe again.
    At a certain point, you have to start making calls about how to spend your GCDs and MP and a guy who just cannot stay alive for a minute at a time is not a good use of either in a crisis. Sucks to be him, but if you want to do blind runs where you get a lot of uptime, it's good to be swift on the uptake.
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    Exosapien's Avatar
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    Amarant Ventonitrua
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    Trust is perfect for doing blind runs where available. Dont make other people miserable for your own selfish reasons.
    Alternatively YOU can do trusts so you're not "miserable" that other people are playing the game "wrong."
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