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    Noctisnine's Avatar
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    Winter Valentine
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    The only thing Samurai needs are buffs. The aoe rotation has never been better and more satisfying to play.
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    Katuchi La-chancla
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    Moogle
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    Samurai is Godlike in AOE now and doesn't need any changes
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    Wesley Hardin
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Noctisnine View Post
    The only thing Samurai needs are buffs. The aoe rotation has never been better and more satisfying to play.
    FR, mechanically, SAM is leagues better than it was in SHB. The only problem I see is that SAMs damage is subpar compared to other melee jobs that do as much if not higher dmg AND have group utility, basically making SAM an irrelevant job.
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    Tani Shirai
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Xtro99 View Post
    FR, mechanically, SAM is leagues better than it was in SHB. The only problem I see is that SAMs damage is subpar compared to other melee jobs that do as much if not higher dmg AND have group utility, basically making SAM an irrelevant job.
    SAM literally has the highest rDPS Ex1 parse in the game right now. There's just a huge difference between the best SAM player and those behind them at the moment. If Bagel were to give the Ex2 another parsed go with a good group (the current leads have no one under a 97th percentile, and only one person under 99th, instead of multiple below 30th), you'd likely see SAM neck and neck with or surpassing the current lead, a Monk.

    Ideally, SAM should slightly surpass Monk, as the latter has Mantra (Brotherhood is already accounted for in rDPS; SAM already has a ~4% lead over RPR and ~6% lead over MNK for aDPS), but SAM is far from having been made "irrelevant"; its rDPS, even down at the 80th percentile, is barely over half a percent from Monk's, which is smaller than the typical difference between any two runs by the same player on the same job in the same party.
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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    SAM literally has the highest rDPS Ex1 parse in the game right now. There's just a huge difference between the best SAM player and those behind them at the moment. If Bagel were to give the Ex2 another parsed go with a good group (the current leads have no one under a 97th percentile, and only one person under 99th, instead of multiple below 30th), you'd likely see SAM neck and neck with or surpassing the current lead, a Monk.

    Ideally, SAM should slightly surpass Monk, as the latter has Mantra (Brotherhood is already accounted for in rDPS; SAM already has a ~4% lead over RPR and ~6% lead over MNK for aDPS), but SAM is far from having been made "irrelevant"; its rDPS, even down at the 80th percentile, is barely over half a percent from Monk's, which is smaller than the typical difference between any two runs by the same player on the same job in the same party.
    That seems surprising considering Reaper and Monk were destroying everyone else in the two Ex Trials. And FFLogs is showing Reaper at the top followed by several monks. There are 9 Sam's on the chart and the first one is at 43 for rdps.

    Did you mean aDPS?
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    Last edited by Ryaz; 01-06-2022 at 12:13 AM.

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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaz View Post
    That seems surprising considering Reaper and Monk were destroying everyone else in the two Ex Trials. And FFLogs is showing Reaper at the top followed by several monks. There are 9 Sam's on the chart and the first one is at 43 for rdps.

    Did you mean aDPS?
    No, I meant rDPS. At the time of posting, Bacon, on SAM, had the top Zodiark parse. He's since been pushed off the top 10, but there are 3 more SAM parses atop his old parse. SAM's by no means out of the running.

    At time of writing this post, SAM has the highest DPS and aDPS parses still, yes, but also the 2nd highest rDPS parse, only 60 rDPS below the top place (which is in turn 88 over the next-best MNK parse and 98 over the best RPR parse).
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 01-06-2022 at 07:20 AM.

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