Healer design is still terrible and I'm tired of apologizing for it.

[AFuzzyMu11in]

From a guide of Stormblood Scholar, using The Balance's Opener

From The Balance's recommended Scholar opener (swiftcast opener)

I'm glad that anything to do outside of pressing Broil IV and reapplying our one DoT got removed, heaven forbid the "Scholar" actually have to use its brain a little bit, that doesn't fit the class fantasy at all! I'm sure having fun giving myself early RSI by having a majority of what I do on this job spamming one button!

Side note use a controller you will thank me later.

But to be serious for a moment, I hate the first picture you posted, all those random buttons, that a player has to learn to use etc as a HEALER. That's why I hate that.

[HyoMinPark]

Side note use a controller you will thank me later.

But to be serious for a moment, I hate the first picture you posted, all those random buttons, that a player has to learn to use etc as a HEALER. That's why I hate that.

Heaven forbid that healers have to press more than one button. That we be engaged in the content, because they surely don’t give us stuff to actually heal. It would be far different it we actually had a high active healing time, but the fact is that we don’t even have 50% healing uptime in the hardest content this game has to offer.

[AFuzzyMu11in]

Heaven forbid that healers have to press more than one button. That we be engaged in the content, because they surely don’t give us stuff to actually heal. It would be far different it we actually had a high active healing time, but the fact is that we don’t even have 50% healing uptime in the hardest content this game has to offer.

???? I quite literally am pressing idom/fey/seraph/sacred off cooldown to keep everyone alive while i weave broil 4. what are you talking about not active healing?

[QooEr]

???? I quite literally am pressing idom/fey/seraph/sacred off cooldown to keep everyone alive while i weave broil 4. what are you talking about not active healing?

i mean i too can pretend i have to heal stuff and press all my heals off cooldown but all thatll accomplish is me having 90% overheal

[HyoMinPark]

???? I quite literally am pressing idom/fey/seraph/sacred off cooldown to keep everyone alive while i weave broil 4. what are you talking about not active healing?

And how much of that is an overheal? You aren’t healing if you’re overhealing. You’re just wasting resources.

[Nizzi]

I hate the first picture you posted, all those random buttons, that a player has to learn to use etc as a HEALER. That's why I hate that.

I would genuinely love to see you explain, in your opinions, why your Paladin should have all these "random buttons" that you have to learn as a TANK but healers can't be allowed to have more than 1 Nuke, 1 DoT, 1 oGCD. Something tells me you'll either ignore this or try to deflect and say something along the lines of "It's different for tanks, healing is like the hardest most stressful thing in the game!!!"

[AFuzzyMu11in]

I would genuinely love to see you explain, in your opinions, why your Paladin should have all these "random buttons" that you have to learn as a TANK but healers can't be allowed to have more than 1 Nuke, 1 DoT, 1 oGCD. Something tells me you'll either ignore this or try to deflect and say something along the lines of "It's different for tanks, healing is like the hardest most stressful thing in the game!!!"

Because when you are the healer, you are monitoring people's status, debuffs, raid mechanics, their health etc. Tanks position the boss, and use mitigation, maybe a targeted protection here or there but they are not spending so much time focused on the rest of the parties status.

Personally, especially now after my interaction with a raider I really think healer should stay the way it is, some guy actually asked for my parses because it "matters" to do savage lmao as a healer.

Yes because all the random Healing buttons we have are any better. You have to learn how to use Protraction and Expedient don't you? How is it any different than learning your DPS rotation? What about learning to use Recitation? Seraph? The argument that you have to learn how to properly play your job is not an argument, it's a scapegoat to disguise laziness, pure and simple. You can't be bothered to learn and just want to complain that "it's too hard" because that's easier and it's sad.

I could be bothered to learn, I just don't want to, and I don't think healer the role subject for so much responsibility should be subject to that. Tank is one thing less responsibility, dps is just kill things, but healer is every role combined tbh if you want to be honest. I can break down my thoughts on this if you really want me to.

[HyoMinPark]

Because when you are the healer, you are monitoring people's status, debuffs, raid mechanics, their health etc. Tanks position the boss, and use mitigation, maybe a targeted protection here or there but they are not spending so much time focused on the rest of the parties status.

Personally, especially now after my interaction with a raider I really think healer should stay the way it is, some guy actually asked for my parses because it "matters" to do savage lmao as a healer.

Specifically on the parse aspect, if you were looking to join a midcore static or higher, it’s not that far-fetched for them to ask for parses since their goals are generally more than “clear once a week for gear”. Join a group that doesn’t ask for them, but don’t be miffed when a private static does. Not your business to dictate their recruitment. And why are you getting upset because groups want to know what kind of player they may be getting for a Savage group?

For a healer, logs are quite important. They want to know how well you’re performing your role—which, according to your statement below, is basically the most important role in a group. Why wouldn’t they want to know how you perform in high-end content? It’s the same for any other role, but especially for a healer.

That said:

I could be bothered to learn, I just don't want to, and I don't think healer the role subject for so much responsibility should be subject to that. Tank is one thing less responsibility, dps is just kill things, but healer is every role combined tbh if you want to be honest. I can break down my thoughts on this if you really want me to.

Weak excuse. If you don’t want to learn your job, then please leave it to those of us who do. Healer responsibility is quite low. Considering I can heal both EX primals with just oGCDs…

[AFuzzyMu11in]

Specifically on the parse aspect, if you were looking to join a midcore static or higher, it’s not that far-fetched for them to ask for parses since their goals are generally more than “clear once a week for gear”. Join a group that doesn’t ask for them, but don’t be miffed when a private static does. Not your business to dictate their recruitment. And why are you getting upset because groups want to know what kind of player they may be getting for a Savage group?

For a healer, logs are quite important. They want to know how well you’re performing your role—which, according to your statement below, is basically the most important role in a group. Why wouldn’t they want to know how you perform in high-end content? It’s the same for any other role, but especially for a healer.

That said:



Weak excuse. If you don’t want to learn your job, then please leave it to those of us who do. Healer responsibility is quite low. Considering I can heal both EX primals with just oGCDs…

Obviously if I'm rocking BIS, and there isn't much of a opener/rotation for healer, that means that I know how to do my job? It's just elite mentality IMO, also why would your goal be anything more than clearing for gear? Get your gear clear for everyone and get out, what else is there to it? Imagine if healers were more complex only to let elitest raiders try to set requirements higher for what you must "prove" in order to be dignified good enough to clear them. Smh this is why I can't stand raiders.

[Halfgeeek]

Obviously if I'm rocking BIS, and there isn't much of a opener/rotation for healer, that means that I know how to do my job? It's just elite mentality IMO, also why would your goal be anything more than clearing for gear? Get your gear clear for everyone and get out, what else is there to it? Imagine if healers were more complex only to let elitest raiders try to set requirements higher for what you must "prove" in order to be dignified good enough to clear them. Smh this is why I can't stand raiders.

We all derive our fun differently. For some, parsing higher is what gives them the thrills, since a clear is just repeating something they've already done countless times. If you don't like that playstyle, join other groups that don't do it, but as much as you think your opinions matter, other people's playstyle and fun matters too.