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    From a guide of Stormblood Scholar, using The Balance's Opener

    From The Balance's recommended Scholar opener (swiftcast opener)

    I'm glad that anything to do outside of pressing Broil IV and reapplying our one DoT got removed, heaven forbid the "Scholar" actually have to use its brain a little bit, that doesn't fit the class fantasy at all! I'm sure having fun giving myself early RSI by having a majority of what I do on this job spamming one button!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    I'm glad that anything to do outside of pressing Broil IV and reapplying our one DoT got removed, heaven forbid the "Scholar" actually have to use its brain a little bit, that doesn't fit the class fantasy at all! I'm sure having fun giving myself early RSI by having a majority of what I do on this job spamming one button!
    This is why I dislike people calling for Dissipation changes to make it more "streamlined" and Energy Drain to be removed or something to make AF only for healing so they don't have to decide, like SGE.

    I like more abilities that require thought to put them to the best use not less.

    People whined on WAR for ages with their gap closer Onslaught taking gauge resources, now its removed, and Inner Release no longer interacts with it, it just feels like any other tank gap closer. Bland & boring.

    WHM being most popular healer despite it being the simplest.. and SMN in EW is so simple, yet its the most popular ranged magic dps according to data.

    This is why we can't have nice things, because people who like complexity in their jobs are actually the minority. Loud ones, but still, minority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halfgeeek View Post
    This is why I dislike people calling for Dissipation changes to make it more "streamlined" and Energy Drain to be removed or something to make AF only for healing so they don't have to decide, like SGE.

    I like more abilities that require thought to put them to the best use not less.

    People whined on WAR for ages with their gap closer Onslaught taking gauge resources, now its removed, and Inner Release no longer interacts with it, it just feels like any other tank gap closer. Bland & boring.

    WHM being most popular healer despite it being the simplest.. and SMN in EW is so simple, yet its the most popular ranged magic dps according to data.

    This is why we can't have nice things, because people who like complexity in their jobs are actually the minority. Loud ones, but still, minority.
    WHM is the most popular because it's the one everyone has immediate access to and because it's so mind-numbingly easy to play so people level it just to have a healer when they need one for whatever reason. I leveled my WHM just because I wanted to see how it played in EW and found it wanting and began voicing my concerns.

    SMN got a rework so everyone is messing around with it to figure it out and considering that there's 4 threads on SMN on the front page of the DPS forums, ranging from QoL improvements, needing buffs, and complaining how dumbed down the class feels it seems like other people have followed suit so I really don't see how you can reach the conclusion that people don't like complexity when people are voicing their concerns.

    Numbers only show that a class is played, not how many people enjoy the class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halfgeeek View Post
    This is why I dislike people calling for Dissipation changes to make it more "streamlined" and Energy Drain to be removed or something to make AF only for healing so they don't have to decide, like SGE.

    I like more abilities that require thought to put them to the best use not less.

    People whined on WAR for ages with their gap closer Onslaught taking gauge resources, now its removed, and Inner Release no longer interacts with it, it just feels like any other tank gap closer. Bland & boring.
    To be fair, WAR having Onslaught no longer taking resources on their job gauge actually feels great, because now you can actually pull stuff without sacrificing your resources on a dash. Before, you'd be unable to dash at lower levels because you simply don't start with gauge, and you simply don't use the skill outside of IR because you sacrifice gauge for Fell Cleave / Decimate / Upheaval. It's a good QoL. I do agree Inner release feels somewhat more bland though as a result, but that's another issue entirely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    From a guide of Stormblood Scholar, using The Balance's Opener

    From The Balance's recommended Scholar opener (swiftcast opener)

    I'm glad that anything to do outside of pressing Broil IV and reapplying our one DoT got removed, heaven forbid the "Scholar" actually have to use its brain a little bit, that doesn't fit the class fantasy at all! I'm sure having fun giving myself early RSI by having a majority of what I do on this job spamming one button!
    Side note use a controller you will thank me later.

    But to be serious for a moment, I hate the first picture you posted, all those random buttons, that a player has to learn to use etc as a HEALER. That's why I hate that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AFuzzyMu11in View Post
    Side note use a controller you will thank me later.

    But to be serious for a moment, I hate the first picture you posted, all those random buttons, that a player has to learn to use etc as a HEALER. That's why I hate that.
    Heaven forbid that healers have to press more than one button. That we be engaged in the content, because they surely don’t give us stuff to actually heal. It would be far different it we actually had a high active healing time, but the fact is that we don’t even have 50% healing uptime in the hardest content this game has to offer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Heaven forbid that healers have to press more than one button. That we be engaged in the content, because they surely don’t give us stuff to actually heal. It would be far different it we actually had a high active healing time, but the fact is that we don’t even have 50% healing uptime in the hardest content this game has to offer.
    ???? I quite literally am pressing idom/fey/seraph/sacred off cooldown to keep everyone alive while i weave broil 4. what are you talking about not active healing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AFuzzyMu11in View Post
    ???? I quite literally am pressing idom/fey/seraph/sacred off cooldown to keep everyone alive while i weave broil 4. what are you talking about not active healing?
    i mean i too can pretend i have to heal stuff and press all my heals off cooldown but all thatll accomplish is me having 90% overheal
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    Quote Originally Posted by AFuzzyMu11in View Post
    ???? I quite literally am pressing idom/fey/seraph/sacred off cooldown to keep everyone alive while i weave broil 4. what are you talking about not active healing?
    And how much of that is an overheal? You aren’t healing if you’re overhealing. You’re just wasting resources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AFuzzyMu11in View Post
    I hate the first picture you posted, all those random buttons, that a player has to learn to use etc as a HEALER. That's why I hate that.
    I would genuinely love to see you explain, in your opinions, why your Paladin should have all these "random buttons" that you have to learn as a TANK but healers can't be allowed to have more than 1 Nuke, 1 DoT, 1 oGCD. Something tells me you'll either ignore this or try to deflect and say something along the lines of "It's different for tanks, healing is like the hardest most stressful thing in the game!!!"
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