Keep NFT out of FF14

[Katie_Kitty]

This isn't a real thing. Everyone, calm down.

Much ado about nothing. It's all going to be fine.

If it's not a real thing, then it seems pretty concerning that the CEO of square-enix not only believes it is a real thing but also believes it should be in his company's games because it somehow represents the future of gaming.

So.. yeah. That doesn't make it any better.

[Katie_Kitty]

This exactly. Let's pretend that instead of NFTs, SE announced that it was going to begin using child slave labor. If you were really opposed to child slave labor, you wouldn't be like: "Well, it's okay if they're using child slaves to make the FFVII remake so as long as they don't use them in connection with FFXIV." No. If you were really opposed to it, you would stop supporting the company whatsoever. Given that so many people are like "NFTs are horrible!... but I'll continue to support SE by playing FFXIV so long as they don't taint just this one product" is very telling.

This is such a weird mentality. "Measured and nuanced responses are BAD!!!"

Would the EVIL NFT outfits ruin the game? no. In fact, it would be a benefit. You would own that item. You could decide to sell me an outfit that you purchased that you no longer need. Yes, SE would get a cut but so what? I got an item that I wanted and you sold an item that you did not. There is also the additional benefit that SE could decide to make that outfit give you a benefit in another game. Maybe you could import that NFT outfit and wear a similar one in a different sony game or break it down for another item. If SE decides to it could also allow integration with other companies so your NFT outfit had integrations there. Even if you were to be banned by SE they could not take the NFT outfit from you as you own it on the blockchain.

What a weird claim. You would not suddenly own the item, no. For one thing, the item is just digital garbage, so there's nothing there to own. For another, if FFXIV shut down... There goes your item. You don't get to keep it because there's nothing there.

"You own it on the blockchain."

Please... Come back to reality instead of your make-believe fantasy world.

[Raven2014]

... or FFXIV shuts down then the items are gone.

if FFXIV shut down then your item are gone regardless ... like ... do you even read what you wrote?

[Mysticp]

if FFXIV shut down then your item are gone regardless ... like ... do you even read what you wrote?

Incorrect. And this is the problem. People do not understand blockchain. The items are not stored on a server central to SE. The items exist on the blockchain. SE gives up control of them once they are created on chain.

[Zumi]

Can someone explain what a nft is? Or how they would put them in the game.

[Raven2014]

Incorrect. And this is the problem. People do not understand blockchain. The items are not stored on a server central to SE. The items exist on the blockchain. SE gives up control of them once they are sold.

Either you or I are missing the really obvious. With the server gone and the game shut down, I don't care how you own your item. Some meaningless bit on a blockchain or the data is burn into a physical disk sent to your door with a ribbon, without the actual gaming environment to apply it it's meaningless.

[HyperiusUltima]

You're wrong about that. As SE's CEO himself said in his recently letter, there are players who "play to have fun" and then there are those players who "play to contribute." I know there are many of us who have just been waiting for the chance to give back to this for-profit corporation and now's our chance!!

Nice sarcasm. But yeah, the whole deal with "play to have fun" is more or less relevant to at least 90% of their revenue for FFXIV. The "play to contribute" part is directed towards their influencers, which is <1% of the playerbase of XIV. If we're considering other games with online functionality, then NFTs are more or less an attempt to get the "play to have fun" people to either be made to buy into the "play to contribute" portion or simply have the company take a cut in sales of say, anything XIV-related. This would be devastating for Artists of all kinds as well for XIV.

[Mysticp]

I gave a brief explanation in the post at the top of this page.

[Mysticp]

Either you or I are missing the really obvious. With the server gone and the game shut down, I don't care how you own your item. Some meaningless bit on a blockchain or the data is burn into a physical disk sent to your door with a ribbon, without the actual gaming environment to apply it it's meaningless.

The value would depend on the market. There are always people that want to collect items. Look at people that collect figurines for shows that are over and done with. Also, if there are integrations with other games or developers then use of the items still persists.

[HyperiusUltima]

If anyone really needs a good retrospective view, check out Quazii's Youtube. He actually did a video on this particular issue and goes into depth about it(despite him basically reacting to Asmongold, for those who've already seen Asmongold's video).