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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I'd also assume that if NFT's were supposedly such a horrible, inexcusable red line for many individuals than the company making use of them elsewhere would be enough for such people to take their leave even if they were not tied to FFXIV directly.
    Quote Originally Posted by DoH View Post
    This exactly. Let's pretend that instead of NFTs, SE announced that it was going to begin using child slave labor. If you were really opposed to child slave labor, you wouldn't be like: "Well, it's okay if they're using child slaves to make the FFVII remake so as long as they don't use them in connection with FFXIV." No. If you were really opposed to it, you would stop supporting the company whatsoever. Given that so many people are like "NFTs are horrible!... but I'll continue to support SE by playing FFXIV so long as they don't taint just this one product" is very telling.
    Huh... I hadn't thought of it like that.
    That's making a lot of sense to me.

    Yeah, new plan: if they follow through, I will too. If they start making NFTs I'm gone.
    Not even just in a "vote with your wallet" sense, but also because the game just won't feel fun after that.
    Wouldn't be the first time a game company turned too sleazy for me to feel joy while playing their games...
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    Nothing wrong with NFT's. It's staggering how little people understand crypto and NFT's. It's like people who were against the internet back in the day.
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    no NFT's MADGE bad SE BAD BOY

    we don't need nft's to ruin games
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    If Yoshi is on the board of directors, then it's likely he was involved with the behind the scenes decisions to support NFTs. He's likely on board with the CEOs choices.
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    While I'm not against companies trying out new ventures, and experimenting with new technologies, the letter that the CEO of Square Enix wrote was utter garbage. I think he should step down.
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    IF we ever hear 14 is going f2p, we will know what will replace the subs.
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    I will only pray to god that they do not do NFTs. The moment that XIV decides to do NFTs in-game is when this game dies. Haven't they bothered to even look at Ubisoft's gigantic gaming backlash? PLAYERS DO NOT WANT NFTs. PERIOD. Next Livestream we need to send that message to Yoshida straight up as a community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticp View Post
    Nothing wrong with NFT's. It's staggering how little people understand crypto and NFT's. It's like people who were against the internet back in the day.
    Then enlighten us. I submit that gaming NFTs are a scam because they have zero value. None at all. Prove me wrong. What is one way in which NFTs could possibly improve this game? Anything at all that could not be done without NFTs. What is one conceivable way that my item is better or more useful or more secure or more easily traded if there is a digital certificate attached to it? Name me one benefit to having say, a blockchain registry of item ownership or housing plot ownership. Literally anything.

    Sometimes people who understand the inner workings of something are unable to see the vast forest of stupidity (the abject wastefulness and pointlessness of the whole endeavor) for the trees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
    I will only pray to god that they do not do NFTs. The moment that XIV decides to do NFTs in-game is when this game dies. Haven't they bothered to even look at Ubisoft's gigantic gaming backlash? PLAYERS DO NOT WANT NFTs. PERIOD. Next Livestream we need to send that message to Yoshida straight up as a community.
    You're wrong about that. As SE's CEO himself said in his recently letter, there are players who "play to have fun" and then there are those players who "play to contribute." I know there are many of us who have just been waiting for the chance to give back to this for-profit corporation and now's our chance!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kakure View Post
    Then enlighten us. I submit that gaming NFTs are a scam because they have zero value. None at all. Prove me wrong. What is one way in which NFTs could possibly improve this game? Anything at all that could not be done without NFTs. What is one conceivable way that my item is better or more useful or more secure or more easily traded if there is a digital certificate attached to it? Name me one benefit to having say, a blockchain registry of item ownership or housing plot ownership. Literally anything.

    Sometimes people who understand the inner workings of something are unable to see the vast forest of stupidity (the abject wastefulness and pointlessness of the whole endeavor) for the trees.
    Where do I even start? Most people know NFT's as digital goods but in actuality they can do more than that. They can also be use to store information digitally. This could include things like identity documentation, digital art, proof of ownership documents etc. Think of an NFT as a digital container. saying it has no value makes zero sense. It's value is determined by what you decide to keep in the container. Your identity documents are valuable to you but I would assign no value to them myself. What most people think NFTs are is just digital art and that's because that is what is big right now. So how does this fit into gaming?

    Let's take FFXIV. I know people that drop 100's of dollars on items in the mog store. They do not own these items. If you get your account removed or FFXIV shuts down then the items are gone. If we took everything that was in the MOG store right now and made it an NFT what would change? Would the EVIL NFT outfits ruin the game? no. In fact, it would be a benefit. You would own that item. You could decide to sell me an outfit that you purchased that you no longer need. Yes, SE would get a cut but so what? I got an item that I wanted and you sold an item that you did not. There is also the additional benefit that SE could decide to make that outfit give you a benefit in another game. Maybe you could import that NFT outfit and wear a similar one in a different sony game or break it down for another item. If SE decides to it could also allow integration with other companies so your NFT outfit had integrations there. Even if you were to be banned by SE they could not take the NFT outfit from you as you own it on the blockchain.
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