Dark Knight Megathread

[Shin96]

This is pitiful if true, but where does that rumor even come from. This is most likely false and a theory to find a justification to hate on the devs.

To be honest, this seems like the only valid theory out there. What more evidence do you need other than looking at DRK's kit and scratching your head as to why they just couldn't be bothered?

Criticism isn't blind hate. I "hate" when people cannot logically grasp that difference. Should we shower them with praise and approval for something that simply just is a trashfire?

I'm not sure wether it's the company or the developers but in all honesty, the CEO isn't sitting there with an agenda to make DRK worse. Do these developers truly love you? I think not.

Whatever. Look at every other gaming company or specifically Blizzard and they truly despise their customers. The only reason we got to this point is blind obedience and fanboyism.

[Shurrikhan]

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There's a difference between critiquing a dev team over a disappointing product and globbing onto tinfoil backstory rumors, likely formed from thin air by a bored Redditor, to get one's disgust-kicks.

Hell, it takes more faith in the team's creativity to say that every issue with DRK has come specifically because the current devs wanted to piss on a former dev's job out of spite.

[Shin96]

There's a difference between critiquing a dev team over a disappointing product and globbing onto tinfoil backstory rumors, likely formed from thin air by a bored Redditor, to get one's disgust-kicks.

Hell, it takes more faith in the team's creativity to say that every issue with DRK has come specifically because the current devs wanted to piss on a former dev's job out of spite.

The latter exists but it hardly emerges from the crowd. Hate is very specific. If you keep disappointing people to the very core of their disappointment; hate you will get, and rightfully so.

Just the fact alone there's enough feedback to make solid choices benefitting the player goes to show you how little they care. Personal vendetta or not, it doesn't alleviate the position DRK is in right now.

However, I can't help but laugh how everything is supposed to be hate nowdays. Take some agency and grow up. Your feelings hardly matter in the grand scheme of things; results do however.

[Shurrikhan]

However, I can't help but laugh how everything is supposed to be hate nowdays. Take some agency and grow up. Your feelings hardly matter in the grand scheme of things; results do however.

Calling a rumor that "DRK is only bad because they're purposely sabotaging the game over interpersonal issues" less likely than that the dev team might just not be that great when it comes to designing distinct tanks now shows immaturity and a lack of agency? The comic-book villainizing of the current state of things, though, is mature and takes agency for oneself? Hmm.

That is Ativan levels of strawman and spin, both, Shin.

The word "hate" never once appeared in my post, and if the circumstances are, as you say, irrelevant (and yes, I agree, they are), what need would anyone have to explain away the result with ridiculous backstories like these?

[Shin96]

Really? Calling a rumor that "DRK is only bad because they're purposely sabotaging the game over interpersonal issues" less likely than that the dev team might just not be that great when it comes to designing distinct tanks now shows immaturity and a lack of agency? Hmm.

How about they are a multi millionaire company oozing with cash from every pocket to the point they can fund anything but choose not to. Even giving DRK a very much needed overhaul? Why did they say we won't go back to the 3.0 complexity then? DRK is very symptomatic and a remnant of that. They've been turning jobs into braindead faceroll experiences a child can play. No room for introspection and learning.

It really is just a lack of agency because everytime you call them out on their bullshit you have thousand drones coming to their defense. Nevermind if there is truth and validity in criticism leveled against the developers. Oh no! It's the company.

Wether that rumor is true or not, it only shows us that people seem to care more about feelings than actual results. What if our "hate" would've gotten us an awesome and amazing rework for DRK? Respect goes both ways.

[Shurrikhan]

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To call out a comically terrible explanation is not to take a side. "Your explanation for the problem is comically ridiculous" =/= "The problem does not exist."

Look at Kalaam's posts across this thread and mine and you will see valid complaints and no blind defense of the product as given. "The devs are sabotaging each other in some weird sort of pissing contest!" however, almost certainly isn't a valid, let alone relevant, complaint.

Can we happily let the Reddit rumors die and get back to the actual issues instead of treating this weird funk like some kind of warpaint?

[Shin96]

To call out a comically terrible explanation is not to take a side. "Your explanation for the problem is comically ridiculous" =/= "The problem does not exist."

Look at Kalaam's posts across this thread and mine and you will valid complaints and no defense of the product as given. "The devs are sabotaging each other in some weird sort of pissing contest!" however, almost certainly isn't a valid, let alone relevant, complaint.

Can we happily let the Reddit rumors die and get back to the actual issues instead of treating this weird funk like some kind of warpaint?

Who are you then to disprove it? You call it ridiculous yet you offer no substantial evidence. Only good faith, which alas was crushed for 2 expansions. We are running out of good faith, I believe.

Calling a theory most likely false and hateful because it directs itself to the source of our discontent (i.e. the developers are completly ignoring DRK) is incorrect. It's criticism directed at the roots. It may be personal in nature but it still reserves its judgement towards the creators.

There's not more I can add to this. Either hold them accountable or spend the rest of your lives complaining in an echo chamber. Perhaps enhanced Unleash and enhanced Unmend 2 will change your mind? One can only hope.