Healer design is still terrible and I'm tired of apologizing for it.

[Thoosa]

Ok, so I am currently levelling Sage at the moment and going through Shadowbringers levelling dungeons. And what I've noticed is this
- Mobs hit hard (especially in Dhon Mheg) and I find myself spending time keeping the tank topped up and sometimes doing some aoe to cover the group, but I'm actually healing quite often and it *feels* a bit challenging - not M+ "I'm on the edge of my seat wondering if we're going to wipe" challenging, but still challenging none the less.
- Then, when you get better gear, healing becomes a joke and dps spam (thank goodness Sage has more than 1 dps button)

It doesn't make sense to me that levelling content is more challenging than max level content. Surely this should be as hard or harder?

[AFuzzyMu11in]

Ok, so I am currently levelling Sage at the moment and going through Shadowbringers levelling dungeons. And what I've noticed is this
- Mobs hit hard (especially in Dhon Mheg) and I find myself spending time keeping the tank topped up and sometimes doing some aoe to cover the group, but I'm actually healing quite often and it *feels* a bit challenging - not M+ "I'm on the edge of my seat wondering if we're going to wipe" challenging, but still challenging none the less.
- Then, when you get better gear, healing becomes a joke and dps spam (thank goodness Sage has more than 1 dps button)

It doesn't make sense to me that levelling content is more challenging than max level content. Surely this should be as hard or harder?

The game is an RPG. The more you gear up the easier it gets. Here is a general rule of thumb.
Dungeon requires 465
Tank/Healer undergeared 465 barely maybe less somehow gets in, you must use mitigation, you will come close to death in big pulls and wipes are possible.
Tank/Healer geared 470-475 the dungeon can do big pulls, you can forget mitigation sometimes, and wipes more than likely won't happen.
Tank/Healer geared to (sync down level) [This level is where your gear has that little yellow mark on it in dungeons saying it's being weakened] You won't wipe, you can forget cooldowns, you will heal very rarely outside of a few ogcds, the tank is a walking god, mobs die very quick assuming dps on same level, its a "snooze fest" you can watch with netflix and still be fine.

Max level content MOST people are more geared up and pushing the sync down level so the content is "easier" if your group is doing it for the rouletes or some reason other than a first time clear. Leveling dungeons don't hit as HARD sometimes when people are too poor to afford the relative gear of poetics augmented, EXCEPT in the case of cheap players who use poetics from X0-X5 and then keep using it even though it's making them undergeared and causing problems.

The TLDR is no content is "easier or harder" what makes it easy or hard is gear, gear is all you need to look at to understand the TRUE story.

[RinaShinomiya]

The game is an RPG. The more you gear up the easier it gets. Here is a general rule of thumb.
Dungeon requires 465
Tank/Healer undergeared 465 barely maybe less somehow gets in, you must use mitigation, you will come close to death in big pulls and wipes are possible.
Tank/Healer geared 470-475 the dungeon can do big pulls, you can forget mitigation sometimes, and wipes more than likely won't happen.
Tank/Healer geared to (sync down level) [This level is where your gear has that little yellow mark on it in dungeons saying it's being weakened] You won't wipe, you can forget cooldowns, you will heal very rarely outside of a few ogcds, the tank is a walking god, mobs die very quick assuming dps on same level, its a "snooze fest" you can watch with netflix and still be fine.

Max level content MOST people are more geared up and pushing the sync down level so the content is "easier" if your group is doing it for the rouletes or some reason other than a first time clear. Leveling dungeons don't hit as HARD sometimes when people are too poor to afford the relative gear of poetics augmented, EXCEPT in the case of cheap players who use poetics from X0-X5 and then keep using it even though it's making them undergeared and causing problems.

The TLDR is no content is "easier or harder" what makes it easy or hard is gear, gear is all you need to look at to understand the TRUE story.

Me and my GF barely were min ilvl in order to do Asphodelos normal raids and every one of them except the third was super easy. And that has probably more to do with her partial color blindness and the arena being the same color as AoE markers.

[AFuzzyMu11in]

Me and my GF barely were min ilvl in order to do Asphodelos normal raids and every one of them except the third was super easy. And that has probably more to do with her partial color blindness and the arena being the same color as AoE markers.

They are designed to be easy. They are simple mechanics and low dps required. Zero enrage, they are meant to gear you up to 580 if you don’t want to do ex trials.

[Silver-Strider]

They are designed to be easy. They are simple mechanics and low dps required. Zero enrage, they are meant to gear you up to 580 if you don’t want to do ex trials.

Says the person that dies to dungeon bosses.

[AFuzzyMu11in]

Says the person that dies to dungeon bosses.

Keep talking when said person has already farmed 480 from normal raids and will clear savage in the next few weeks. Can’t wait to make you elitist raiders eat those words when I a normal person clear savage raids without being a raider.

[RinaShinomiya]

Keep talking when said person has already farmed 480 from normal raids and will clear savage in the next few weeks. Can’t wait to make you elitist raiders eat those words when I a normal person clear savage raids without being a raider.

But if you clear a Savage raid, won't become a evil raider yourself?

[Towowo]

But if you clear a Savage raid, won't become a evil raider yourself?

Honestly, it sounds more and more like they consider raiders to be alien life forms. It doesn't seem to occur to them that people who don't raid extensively might find the current Healer design a bit too simplistic.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

It doesn't make sense to me that levelling content is more challenging than max level content. Surely this should be as hard or harder?

Leveling dungeons tend to sync your iLv within a tight iLv range, closer to the originally intended iLv for said dungeon. While numbers do not lie that better gears means easier run, those dungeons do not suffer from iLv bloat like capstone dungeons do. This iLv bloat is part of the reason why capstone dungeons are comically undertuned.

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On a side note.. One could clear savage or even get to the 90+ percentile in performance and still have no clue what they’re talking about.

I know it’s quite rare.. but it happens..

[Silver-Strider]

Keep talking when said person has already farmed 480 from normal raids and will clear savage in the next few weeks. Can’t wait to make you elitist raiders eat those words when I a normal person clear savage raids without being a raider.

Who said I was an elitist?
I don't have a static and only bother to do a Savage tier when I have the time to do so because my Work Schedule changes on a dime. I only cleared E12S because how long the wait for EW was and the last Raid Tier I cleared when it was relevant was O8S back in SB. I've been out of the raid scene for so long that I couldn't dream of calling myself an elitist nowaday. Hell, I couldn't even call myself an elitist when I did have time to clear raids because my static back then was just a group of friends I played with and we sucked but we still went thru with it because it was just fun to do. I no longer play with them due to my hectic work schedule but I still periodically pop in to a raid tier just to keep myself engaged since Healers have become so boring since my old Coil Days. Another thing to consider as well is that I play on PS4, have been since I started playing back in ARR, and don't even have access to a parser to check how well I'm doing outside the few random occasions when a random in PF parsed a fight. I'd called myself Midcore at best.

You clearing a savage tier wouldn't really prove anything to me other than that healing has become even more braindead easy than I imagined it to be.