Why NOT allow PvP's Combo-actions to be used in PvE?

[Jirah]

This would flat out wouldn’t work in most kits, for DPS only RPR and MCH have a bare bones 1-2-3 where this makes sense

PVP is what it is because they are minimized versions of the initial kit due to the more frantic gameplay. Asking for the same for PVE is asking for the kits to be butchered

[Jirah]

Nobody's saying you should be *forced* to use it. If it makes you feel good about yourself to press 1/2/3 for whatever reason then nobody wants to take that away from you. What we're saying is it would be nice for people who have no particular attachment to 1/2/3 combos to be able to condense them into one button.




Shots fired!!

Forgetting the fact only tanks and like 1/2 DPS really have a 1/2/3

[LisSquid]

Forgetting the fact only tanks and like 1/2 DPS really have a 1/2/3

The majority of others are already 1-1-1-1 with some sort of proc set so it's not really a fair argument against.

[EaMett]

The majority of others are already 1-1-1-1 with some sort of proc set so it's not really a fair argument against.

Yeah but the missing combo actions for those classes are replaced by proc actions. So at the end of the day you still have similar levels of button bloat and that doesn't solve anything for controller players. Combining combos without those extra skills however is.. in a way, something we already have with healers. And healers have been complaining about it for years.
I think the initial sentiment of wanting to avoid button bloat for controller players makes sense. But I also think people underestimate the difference between pressing 1-2-3 and pressing 1-1-1.

[LisSquid]

Yeah but the missing combo actions for those classes are proc actions. So at the end of the day you still have similar levels of button bloat and that doesn't solve anything for controller players. Combining combos without those extra skills however is.. in a way, something we already have with healers. And healers have been complaining about it for years.
I think the initial sentiment of wanting to avoid button bloat for controller players makes sense. But I also think people underestimate the difference between pressing 1-2-3 and pressing 1-1-1.

I don't think the PVE combo action would take procs into it (at least not from what I read), but specifically the abilities that are gcd and read in 1-2-3 (1,2,3 being placeholders for any strict combination of buttons in the rotation). So jobs like Dancer and Bard would play exactly the same as before with this system.

[EaMett]

I don't think the PVE combo action would take procs into it (at least not from what I read), but specifically the abilities that are gcd and read in 1-2-3 (1,2,3 being placeholders for any strict combination of buttons in the rotation). So jobs like Dancer and Bard would play exactly the same as before with this system.

My point was that saying that a combined combo would work because proc classes technically have 1-1-1 gameplay wasn't a fair comparison.
True 1-1-1 gameplay like what you'd expect from a combined combo action does exist in some classes and the players maining those have only had complaints about it since the beginning.

[lezard21]

I much rather they turn combos into a 1 key press and every job gets new oGCD skills next expansion, than the current practice of just upgrading old skills because they want to avoid keybind bloat.

[Moonlite]

For the people against. One thing to consider, lag. When you get lag and have moved onto the next skill but broken the combo somehow. With one button this doesn't happen. Also reduces button bloat for controllers. Some people make macros in or out of game as well. If it wouldn't be a huge work issue to implement. Since everything is a huge issue to do. The option for setting turning it on and off would be nice. Think of i as a QoL thing for other players you never even notice.

[Bobby66]

Just make it an option.

[SherlottaEryut]

It’s possible if you’re on PC, just do research. I dare to say this is the thing what’s gaining this game a few 100k more continuing.

Sorry, but I’m curious, can anyone inform me on FFXIV’s policy on plug-ins? Not saying I’m going to do it *ESPECIALLY* if it’s going to put my account at risk, but is this an absolute no-go?

Someone prior said even a DPS meter is a ‘gray area’ but I’m finding so many mixed messages online. - just to clarify I hate DPS meters I think they’re unnecessary.