*Spoilers* Anyone feel joining Emet would have been better

[EaraGrace]

You seem to be confused…

Spare me the condescension. My point is that using those three as a baseline is ridiculous, given they were clearly exceptional individuals. Using their reaction doesn’t tell us anything.

Why could she not have left and enacted a plan against Meteion…

Venats plan A was the defeat of Meteion, based on my read. The Mothercrystal, as well as the reserve of strength she kept for our trial make that clear. And why couldn’t she just leave? To where? To a plant unprotected by Zodiark where Meteion would find a weakened, separated group of Ancients and immediately kill them? It seems obvious why that wasn’t in the cards.

It's obvious that they are not the same, my point is only that a very vague line of distinction is made purely for the purposes of narrative convenience.

That’s your subjective take.

You're wrong. Flat-out. People do so every day without even thinking about it. WoL has done it on countless occasions.

What a dim view of people.

Venat does not say that they would specifically need Hermes "expertise" for anything…

Okay this is not logical. If you genuinely believe that what she means is that he’s generally a smart guy, and not that he is an expert in a field that will be invaluable come the Final Days then I’m done. The Convocation, a group of smart people brought together as experts in their field, do not need another “smart guy” and he certainly wouldn’t be “invaluable in the crises to come.” Come on.

Not only is the entire thing a godawful contrivance with little logic behind it, what Venat is talking about with Hermes there is her MO to a T - Withhold knowledge from someone and try to manipulate them into aiding your cause, even when revealing the truth of the situation to them might make them your enemy...

You’re letting your distaste for a certain character cloud the reality of what happened.

They didn't buy her arguments regardless. Either way she was predicating them on lies.

Assumptions.

That was quite literally their plan with the third sacrifice.

This does not sound like animals being sacrificed to me.

[Lauront]

This does not sound like animals being sacrificed to me.

Why would it? It is post-Sundering... so it clarifies nothing.