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  1. #181
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    Semirhage's Avatar
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    Nemene Damendar
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    Midgardsormr
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Since Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare is the pinnacle of game design, how about we spread the good word to the DPS role too? I'm sure they could benefit from it. After all, they don't have a designated paste-eating job and I think that's a shame. Everyone deserves the ability to play FFXIV from REM sleep.

    We'll start with Black Mage. Way, way too many abilities. Too hard, can't manage it. This fire-ice thing is too complicated for one. Let's just have fire phase. To make it easier and more fun to play, we'll reduce the cast time of Fire to 1.5 seconds so you can weave with it. And we'll make Foul an oGCD so we have more super fun things to weave too! I want to reduce its entire gameplay loop to the following: Thunder, Fire, Amplifier, Fire Foul, Fire Fire Fire Fire Fire Fire Fire Fire Fire Thunder Fire Fire Fire Fire Fire Fire....

    I've done it, I've created the most fun action-packed class that's ever existed.
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  2. #182
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    ThorneDynasty's Avatar
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    Gisela Thorne
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    Zodiark
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Isn't the new Summoner basically just three healer DPS rotations in a trench coat already
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    Last edited by ThorneDynasty; 12-31-2021 at 04:06 AM.

  3. #183
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    Semirhage's Avatar
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    Nemene Damendar
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    Quote Originally Posted by QooEr View Post
    i honestly think you should switch yo astro. even when i dont heal i have nearly 36 apm.

    when i leveled whm to 90 i was falling asleep on the wheel
    I still despise the one button downtime, but AST definitely feels busier. I'm a WHM main at heart. I like the aesthetic. I wish dearly that it wasn't the this game's whipping boy job that the community is torn between either thinking it "should" be the stupidest, worst-designed class I've seen in an RPG or shrugging, resigned that it's going to be the former no matter what anyone says because Square Enix thinks that healers are so stupid they "need" a class designed for paste-eaters.
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  4. #184
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    Rilifane's Avatar
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    Esther Harper
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    Since Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare is the pinnacle of game design, how about we spread the good word to the DPS role too? I'm sure they could benefit from it. After all, they don't have a designated paste-eating job and I think that's a shame. Everyone deserves the ability to play FFXIV from REM sleep.

    We'll start with Black Mage. Way, way too many abilities. Too hard, can't manage it. This fire-ice thing is too complicated for one. Let's just have fire phase. To make it easier and more fun to play, we'll reduce the cast time of Fire to 1.5 seconds so you can weave with it. And we'll make Foul an oGCD so we have more super fun things to weave too! I want to reduce its entire gameplay loop to the following: Thunder, Fire, Amplifier, Fire Foul, Fire Fire Fire Fire Fire Fire Fire Fire Fire Thunder Fire Fire Fire Fire Fire Fire....

    I've done it, I've created the most fun action-packed class that's ever existed.
    I really like your posts and everything but now it's getting personal. I draw the line at BLM.
    Hands off my explosion flinger or I'll find you and I'll Sylphie you to madness with Cure I.
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  5. #185
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    Semirhage's Avatar
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    Nemene Damendar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rilifane View Post
    I really like your posts and everything but now it's getting personal. I draw the line at BLM.
    Hands off my explosion flinger or I'll find you and I'll Sylphie you to madness with Cure I.
    I figured if I went straight to the source and inflicted Glarebot gameplay directly on Yoshi we'd see a turnaround within a patch cycle *finger guns*
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  6. #186
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    Jonathan_Clover's Avatar
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    Jonathan Clover
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    Zalera
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    I figured if I went straight to the source and inflicted Glarebot gameplay directly on Yoshi we'd see a turnaround within a patch cycle *finger guns*
    Sometimes I like to think what would be if Yoshi-P's star favorite was a healer instead of BLM, and how that might change everything. A man can dream. :'(
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  7. #187
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    AFuzzyMu11in's Avatar
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    Tiramisa Damsela
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    I still despise the one button downtime, but AST definitely feels busier. I'm a WHM main at heart. I like the aesthetic. I wish dearly that it wasn't the this game's whipping boy job that the community is torn between either thinking it "should" be the stupidest, worst-designed class I've seen in an RPG or shrugging, resigned that it's going to be the former no matter what anyone says because Square Enix thinks that healers are so stupid they "need" a class designed for paste-eaters.
    What part of healers have the most responsibilities. If a healer dies it’s over if both die it’s super over. That stress and responsibility is WHY healers have less of a rotation thankfully. Healers can’t afford to focus on a rotation when they are too busy keeping ransoms who may or may not be acting like bonobos. And for the record i was mad in HW when black mage went from fire 1/3 to waaay more buttons
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  8. #188
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    FoxCh40s's Avatar
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    Source Eldion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    I figured if I went straight to the source and inflicted Glarebot gameplay directly on Yoshi we'd see a turnaround within a patch cycle *finger guns*
    The sad thing is, if this happened, the entire world would explode for dps. They always use stress and too many mechanics as an excuse for Healers to be as boring as they are, yet why is this not spread to the rest of the jobs?

    Because they know people would absolutely RIOT if the other jobs were made as simple as healer. Look at the dps forums for Summoner, the majority of people think it's far to simple, but STILL refuse to acknowledge the healer situation.
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  9. #189
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    Corbeau's Avatar
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    Cam Ember
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    Ultros
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ThorneDynasty View Post
    Isn't the new Summoner basically just three healer DPS rotations in a trench coat already
    Which is several times more complex than healer gameplay, yet the DPS forums are melting down over how simple it is.

    It's not bad to have simple classes within each role but it is very bad to not have complex alternatives.
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  10. #190
    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Reaper Lv 90
    AS i just did the first ex trial, blind, with several others and just one person running ahead... im really not suprised they could do this anymore xD

    Its just sad...
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