Is Leve EXP Far Too Generous Now?

[ErryK]

leves seem fine to me. collectables would just be spammed if leves were low exp anyways so people would be able to get to 90 either way.

Why would you need to return when the summoning bell is right there by the leve counter and the MB is just a quick jog up the stairs?

gatherers gather outside of old sharlayan so they just return you to the closest settlement (aetheryte) instead of taking you all the way back to old sharlayan, but the issue is you're spending at least three teleports everytime you do a set of gatherer leves (once to old sharlayan, once to the region you're doing leves in and then once more to return to old sharlayan to receive the rewards for completion), it's a tad bit ridiculous it's been this way since heavensward.

Yeah but, 3-4 items per level, with easy synths to boot...?

well, the minimum amount of hand-ins for leves is actually five per level at lv80+ and with some of the mid-level leves giving a ridiculous amount of exp (eg. the saigaskin fending coat leve being better than both of the leves at level 86 for leatherworker) so it's no surprise it takes such a short amount of time but i would argue it's fast because there's 80 other levels to go through before you get to these.

[Artemiz]

well, the minimum amount of hand-ins for leves is actually five per level at lv80+

I think a few of you guys are underestimating how broken leves are at the moment, I'll give an example and it's not even 3 turn ins, never mind 5

Level 84 to 85 requires 7,948,000 exp to level up

Level 84 blacksmith leve Records of the Republic is 1,746,150 exp for NQ. Turn in the HQ for 3,492,300 exp. Just 3 turn ins is 10,476,900 exp. You could probably do 2 levels with 5 turn ins.

That's way too easy, in my opinion.

EDIT:

I just did this to get a bit more info,

Level 85 to 86 is 8,287,000, so to go from 0 exp at 84 to 86 is 16,235,000

First time bonus for the synth is 175,221

Each synth is 252,214 at 100% quality (350% bonus) or 1,261,070 for 5 items.

In total then, with 5 turn ins, 5 synths and the first time bonus you get 18,897,791 plus about 50k gil which pays for 90% of the mats.

2 full levels plus 2.5 million exp extra, in what, 10 minutes?

[Jojoya]

I think a few of you guys are underestimating how broken leves are at the moment, I'll give an example and it's not even 3 turn ins, never mind 5

Level 84 to 85 requires 7,948,000 exp to level up

Level 84 blacksmith leve Records of the Republic is 1,746,150 exp for NQ. Turn in the HQ for 3,492,300 exp. Just 3 turn ins is 10,476,900 exp. You could probably do 2 levels with 5 turn ins.

That's way too easy, in my opinion.

EDIT:

I just did this to get a bit more info,

Level 85 to 86 is 8,287,000, so to go from 0 exp at 84 to 86 is 16,235,000

First time bonus for the synth is 175,221

Each synth is 252,214 at 100% quality (350% bonus) or 1,261,070 for 5 items.

In total then, with 5 turn ins, 5 synths and the first time bonus you get 18,897,791 plus about 50k gil which pays for 90% of the mats.

2 full levels plus 2.5 million exp extra, in what, 10 minutes?

Except it was the same last expansion. It would take me 5-6 HQ turn-ins to gain 2 levels between 70-80. I leveled DOH on 5 characters primarily through leves so I know it was just as bad then as it is now.

This expansion is no worse. People ignored it last expansion because Firmament hype had most players leveling there instead of through other methods.

A better discussion is what the leveling process should accomplish, and how speed impacts that. If the point is for players to learn how to use the actions in their toolkit, continuing to increase the time needed to level becomes unnecessarily punitive instead of beneficial once they've got sufficient experience in using their actions.

[ErryK]

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five per level tier is what i meant to say since leves work in tiers of two, but in any case, i'm not sure what your point is. in any case, there's 0 content between 81 and 89 aside from studium quests, all the new content will pretty much be locked behind 90 or otherwise assist even more in leveling. leves are pretty much there for people who want to level immediately, otherwise they can sit aside with their crafters and wait for island sanctuary.