Why does Sage punish you for using your healing spells?

[Saimeren]

Where are those moments because I feel like my tanks are always dying. Is that my fault or am I not giving them enough mitigation when I am playing Sage?

Apply shields to your tank.. All the time. Use your MP, you have a lot of it and you get a lot of it back simply from casting your OCGD's. Every single one of your OGCD's gives you 700 MP. You also have lucid dreaming.

When your Eukrasian Diagnosis expires, simply put another one on. Don't be afraid to spend your MP, that's why you have it. Apply the shield. When it breaks, apply it again.

On top of that, don't sleep on Physis (II), Holos and Pepsis. They're really good spells, and I rarely see other Sage's using them.

If you need burst, cast Diagnosis then Eukrasian Diagnosis, Pepsis, Taurochole/Druochole and then another Eukrasian Diagnosis. Do that quickly and you'll top your tank up no problem. At that point you just have to keep your shield up. Toss Haima out if you need to, and use Kerachole when necessary.

Sage healing isn't difficult. Don't rely on Kardia for anything and you'll be fine.

Edit: You might feel that your role is to dps first and heal second. It's not. You're a healer. Stop dealing damage and heal your party. A dead party member isn't going to help kill the boss. A healthy party member is going to deal more damage than you anyway. Heal your team.

[Katie_Kitty]

Apply shields to your tank.. All the time. Use your MP, you have a lot of it and you get a lot of it back simply from casting your OCGD's. Every single one of your OGCD's gives you 700 MP. You also have lucid dreaming.

When your Eukrasian Diagnosis expires, simply put another one on. Don't be afraid to spend your MP, that's why you have it. Apply the shield. When it breaks, apply it again.

On top of that, don't sleep on Physis (II), Holos and Pepsis. They're really good spells, and I rarely see other Sage's using them.

If you need burst, cast Diagnosis then Eukrasian Diagnosis, Pepsis, Taurochole/Druochole and then another Eukrasian Diagnosis. Do that quickly and you'll top your tank up no problem. At that point you just have to keep your shield up. Toss Haima out if you need to, and use Kerachole when necessary.

Sage healing isn't difficult. Don't rely on Kardia for anything and you'll be fine.

Edit: You might feel that your role is to dps first and heal second. It's not. You're a healer. Stop dealing damage and heal your party. A dead party member isn't going to help kill the boss. A healthy party member is going to deal more damage than you anyway. Heal your team.

Oh my god, please stop giving terrible advice. Please.

For anyone reading this, do not apply and reapply diagnosis shields. That is not the way you play sage. You should be primarily using your oGCDs to mitigate and regen/cure. You can use your shield when there are no targetable enemies, but otherwise, all you need to do is weave your oGCDs while spamming your damage attacks.. that's it.. You don't need diagnosis.

[Shibi]

For anyone reading this, do not apply and reapply diagnosis shields. That is not the way you play sage. You should be primarily using your oGCDs to mitigate and regen/cure. You can use your shield when there are no targetable enemies, but otherwise, all you need to do is weave your oGCDs,

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While it's certainly not a spam-spell because it's pretty inefficient, I believe it's a little more situational than just a pre-pull use as you mention.

With luck, my Euk_Diag done at the right time can shield for about 1/4 of a HP bar, plus on that crit add another 125% of damage mitigation. If haima/panhaima is down or being saved and one of the squishies is about to be eaten with a focused head marker I find it's quite invaluable. Especially if that head marker is on me and will carry a stun with it.

And when it goes to hell-in-a-handbasket because your pug tank isn't mitigating and your reaper is taking all the cleaves... 3-button pepsis helps. Also, as it's pretty strong it's use with pepsis is good on that surprise super-bolide.

There are likely more situations I can find for it. It's a tool, and a fairly good one in the correct spots.

But yeah, apply and reapply and keep them up all the time isn't it's use. It's far more situational, but it does carry valid uses beyond pre-pull.

[HyoMinPark]

Then don't. Kardia's healing is crap. It's not going to save your tank. It's an extremely low heal that shouldn't be relied upon after L30. You're a healer.. Use your heals.

Kardia is your regen and has plenty of use beyond level 30. You can’t always rely upon it or trash fights, but during boss fights in all dungeons, I barely have to use any other forms of healing on a tank. My oGCDs are primarily for mana or to heal the DPS.

Protip for 8-man content: Kardia buffs and HoTs stack. So if you end up with double SGE, then both of you can apply Kardia to the MT for double the HoT ticks. There are so many SGEs that put it on the OT that acts as a blue DPS the entire fight and never takes a lick of damage, and that is such a waste. There aren’t enough fights were both tanks are taking autos at the same time, so 9 times out of 10, you can both apply Kardia to the same target.

Sage's Kardia triggers a single heal on a single target for a low potency upon successful spell cast of a damaging attack. It does not scale with the amount of damage you deal, which means that it's just a rolling HoT while you're dealing damage.

And you are underestimating the power of HoTs. While Kardia shouldn’t be relied upon to solely heal a tank, you aren’t considering the worth of a regen tick.

Otherwise it's not in use. If your party needs a heal, stop dpsing for a second and heal your party like you're supposed to. Sage is NOT a dps healer. You're a healer that has a temporary HoT on a single target while dealing damage.

You should essentially play your Sage like you do your White Mage; except your HoT spell that you'd spread around is a shield instead. Think of it like that and ignore Kardia all together. Put it on your tank and forget it's even there. Don't rely on it, don't try to maximize it's effects.. It's not going to save your tank.

Kardia should almost always be in use because there are very few fights where you have to actively stop damage to heal. Even with people eating stuff they shouldn’t be, you should be using oGCDs over GCD healing spells, which means your GCDs are being spent on damage.

And no, you do not play SGE as you do a WHM. WHM has the unfortunate luck of being the “GCD healer” in this game, as most of its heals are not oGCD. Conversely, SGE’s primary heals are supposed to be your oGCD abilities that use up Addersgall stacks. Telling a person to “play SGE like you do WHM” is just wrong because SGE is not a WHM. Barrier versus regen healer aside.

Apply shields to your tank.. All the time. Use your MP, you have a lot of it and you get a lot of it back simply from casting your OCGD's. Every single one of your OGCD's gives you 700 MP. You also have lucid dreaming.

When your Eukrasian Diagnosis expires, simply put another one on. Don't be afraid to spend your MP, that's why you have it. Apply the shield. When it breaks, apply it again.

Do not do this. Spamming your single-target shield is a last resort mechanic for SGE. You burn through Addersgall stacks first and foremost while weaving in offensives for Kardia ticks. Addersgall stacks take 20 seconds to gain, and you have Rhizomata at the higher levels to grant you one every 90 seconds. You use them first. Spamming your GCD shield is suboptimal and a resource waste.

On top of that, don't sleep on Physis (II), Holos and Pepsis. They're really good spells, and I rarely see other Sage's using them.

If you need burst, cast Diagnosis then Eukrasian Diagnosis, Pepsis, Taurochole/Druochole and then another Eukrasian Diagnosis. Do that quickly and you'll top your tank up no problem. At that point you just have to keep your shield up. Toss Haima out if you need to, and use Kerachole when necessary.

The preferred order of healing I do for dungeon pulls is:

Pre-pull Eukrasian Diagnosis on the tank > I will refresh this while running for Toxikon stacks while using Dyskrasia on the mobs > Kerachole for mitigation / HoT + mitigation at levels 78 and above > Taurochole + Haima after Kerachole wears off and the tank is around 50% HP > Druochole as needed (usually I only have to use these twice if I have a tank that knows what defensives are, but more if I get one that thinks cooldowns are to be saved for the bosses). Most trash packs should die before I have to resort to another Kerachole or using excessive Druochole stacks if the DPS are pressing their AOE buttons. For a second pull, I combined Taurochole with Panhaima at 80+, since it serves almost the same purpose. There is no “if you need to” with Haima or Panhaima. Both of them are incredibly good, and you should have either one up for every dungeon pull. There are only a few pulls off the top of my head where I’ve had to resort to using more E. Diagnosis than I want (last pull before the last boss in Tower of Zot comes to mind), but the vast majority I can easily get away with using the combinations above, and barely have to use E. Diagnosis outside of pre-pull/running with the tank.

Unless I have a tank made of paper, I rarely have to do much beyond this. Pre-HoT Kerachole, I substitute Physis in its place as my HoT while using Kerachole for the auto mitigation. If the pull is taking longer to die, then I use Holos for a small heal + mitigation on the tank. Krasis if I want to boost my oGCDs. In 90 content, there should be at least one pull between bosses for you to Zoe + Pneuma, which is your strongest heal. I tend to time them around the spicer pulls in the 90 MSQ dungeon. The two Expert dungeons I just throw them wherever because they hit like wet noodles. Like most Expert dungeons tend to do.