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    Wyakin's Avatar
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    Wyakin Cade
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    Odin
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    Dragoon Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by ZiraZ View Post
    Only blm and sam?
    it seems basically everyone is underperforming when compared to reaper and monk, its almost like nerfing them would be the easiest path to take instead of having to buff virtually everything else.
    Scuoll's post makes it very clear reaper not only needs a gigantic dps nerf but also needs Arcane crest to be brutally nerfed into the ground, like even a 50% nerf might not be enough it's that broken.
    If reaper and monk get to keep their utility like it is, then their rDPS should be way under drg and nin, then it would be balanced.
    So you want to nerf arcane circle? The raid buff which is the least effective raid buff? A 3%, 2 minute buff which yields less raid dps than chain, litany, trick, battle voice, brotherhood? All because in your opinion reaper is too powerful. Now, the only reason people like scuoll are calling for this nerf is because their job isn’t too dps. Well.. someone has to be. It’s nice for it to not be samurai or black mage
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    ZiraZ's Avatar
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    Zira Zira
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    Jenova
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Wyakin View Post
    So you want to nerf arcane circle? The raid buff which is the least effective raid buff? A 3%, 2 minute buff which yields less raid dps than chain, litany, trick, battle voice, brotherhood? All because in your opinion reaper is too powerful. Now, the only reason people like scuoll are calling for this nerf is because their job isn’t too dps. Well.. someone has to be. It’s nice for it to not be samurai or black mage
    CREST, crest is broken, and its not opinions, people have posted evidence of how broken it is, if you choose to dismiss the evidence then there is nothing to discuss.
    Circle is fine on it's own if the personal reaper dps gets nerfed, but having the personal dps of a SAM or BLM AND also having circle is not fine, same goes for monk and brotherhood, if their nDPS gets nerfed then circle and brotherhood are fine.
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    Last edited by ZiraZ; 12-28-2021 at 05:40 PM.

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    Scuoll's Avatar
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    Scuoll Xyz
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    Ragnarok
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Wyakin View Post
    So you want to nerf arcane circle? The raid buff which is the least effective raid buff? A 3%, 2 minute buff which yields less raid dps than chain, litany, trick, battle voice, brotherhood? All because in your opinion reaper is too powerful. Now, the only reason people like scuoll are calling for this nerf is because their job isn’t too dps. Well.. someone has to be. It’s nice for it to not be samurai or black mage
    Man i stopped reading for a couple days but as i said as an earlier post, can you just stick to the argument instead of going for made up ad hominems about me? It sounds to me like you know that defending the points is useless and you have to resort to making stuff up about me because it looks better than saying "no guys its fine reaper has 1k hps in logs but it also should be top dps and really easy to play ". You also keep misrepresenting the power of arcane circle: it is technically less effective than litany, on average , by a whopping 20 to 30 dps out of 6-7 THOUSAND, its a raid buff on par with the others, while their personal dps is way way higher.

    Also doubt that you will care, but i already got reaper to 90 and plan to play it pretty consistently, maybe not main it, but i like it, its pretty fun and flashy, and that is also why i can say that it can keep the same playstyle and do the same things just without being top dps effortlessly.

    Its completely useless to discuss like this, i am not out here saying you just dont want reaper nerfed because you selfishly want your class to be best at everything, my argument, which you refused to adress several times already during these posts is quite simple, i'll say it one more time : reaper currently excels at both damage and utility,their utility being way better than the other melees, which sometimes have none, while being easier to use which in turn leads to players having an easier time performing on it.

    Now since there are multiple melee jobs, is it good balancing if one is the best at everything? Should there not be, at least sometimes, an advantage to bringing other jobs?

    Please argue about this, although for all i know your next post is calling me a filthy non raiding "some other job" main which wants to top dps for self fulfillment or something. The other argument outside of personal attacks you have made has been "i like not seeing samurai or black mage on top", which isnt even relevant to this discussion.
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