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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    I'm not particularly interested in indulging some of the usual attempts at what I think to be gaslighting and moving the goalposts. Rather, I think that itt should be enough to acknowledge that persistently harassing people over a lengthy period of time and sending them death threats and homophobic comments over fictional characters in a video game is quite simply inappropriate.

    Neither of the comments quoted from either myself or Lauront are anywhere near as grotesque as such events, nor do they ring untrue in the context of this particular exchange.

    Though, once again, I'll repeat my prior point:

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    The most fascinating thing I observed was that certain posters would repeatedly launch thinly veiled attacks and sometimes direct personal attacks at fans of the antagonists, implying all manner of horrible things about their person and real world morality. When finally those being assaulted had enough, even a minor quip in response would be treated as some deeply horrific crime and personal attack.
    The last line in particular is, perhaps, the most important.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    But that is the sort of thing you say in other debates, and I've certainly been left at times trying to work out whether (if not feeling certain that) your comments are directed at my opinion.

    And even regardless of this – if you're clear you're talking about people who respond on the level of making death threats – then what do you suppose we should do with that information?

    The fact that someone awful enough to make threats against you is disagreeing with your opinions does not say anything about the opinions in themselves. It is not proof that their interpretation of the story is wrong and yours is justified through persecution. Nor does it say anything about the character and motives of anyone else who shares their opinion and/or disagrees with yours.

    So – what is the point of telling us about this, if you can't say who it is and we can't do anything about it? What does it add to the debate?
    It's relevant to the conversation at hand. I find it interesting that other posters have made similarly vague comments, such as pointing out that 'some people' have told them that they're not comfortable posting here any longer for various reasons. Those posters weren't pushed for more details or criticised for being vague. So whether it's intentional or not, it certainly seems like this is little more than an attempt to try and brush it under the rug and pretend as if it hasn't happened.

    At any rate, I didn't come here to argue. I was directed to this thread by someone else over Discord and opted to post my thoughts. Along with a clear disclaimer in my prior post that people are free to take it with a pinch of salt.
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    Last edited by Theodric; 12-27-2021 at 07:23 PM.