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    I have to go with the no crowd on this one. Overpowered abilites like uts and sentinel shouldn't have such a stranglehold on the community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volsung View Post
    I have to go with the no crowd on this one. Overpowered abilites like uts and sentinel shouldn't have such a stranglehold on the community.
    Yet Sentinel exists, and people require you to have it.

    Same as before.

    Just like you used to have to be LNC, or THM or ARC for Ifrit, Moogle, even DH was Arch only.

    This is the communities fault and people always make a favoring setup mandatory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Yet Sentinel exists, and people require you to have it.

    Same as before.

    Just like you used to have to be LNC, or THM or ARC for Ifrit, Moogle, even DH was Arch only.

    This is the communities fault and people always make a favoring setup mandatory.

    Well then sorry to point this out but wanting to add another thing that will be the the next "communities fault" as even you admit, is just a dumb move. Thats like saying, I know hitting myself hurts, but I'll do it anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volsung View Post
    Well then sorry to point this out but wanting to add another thing that will be the the next "communities fault" as even you admit, is just a dumb move. Thats like saying, I know hitting myself hurts, but I'll do it anyways.
    If its not Utsusemi, it will be something else. Because the community will always favour a specific strategy. Garauntee you people prioritize a specific Job on the new raids coming up XD (And a Specific Skill thats Mandatory).

    Btw a lot of people hated Utsusemi because you had to have /nin sub, we dont have subs here, you just equip the skill, like Sentinel, and also hated it because of the cost/obtaining difficulty, which is non existent here as you would get it through a quest (like the new job skills) or through levels (like class skills), just like... Sentinel!
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    If its not Utsusemi, it will be something else. Because the community will always favour a specific strategy. Garauntee you people prioritize a specific Job on the new raids coming up XD (And a Specific Skill thats Mandatory).
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    I'm not saying it won't happen. I guarantee people will class stack. I did darkhold with lancers pugs mrds and pug gla and mrd
    tanks (when they were able) even though everyone did arc groups.

    What I AM saying is that previous mistakes existing don't make it right to implement stuff you know will be a mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volsung View Post
    I'm not saying it won't happen. I guarantee people will class stack. I did darkhold with lancers pugs mrds and pug gla and mrd
    tanks (when they were able) even though everyone did arc groups.

    What I AM saying is that previous mistakes existing don't make it right to implement stuff you know will be a mistake.
    Its not a mistake though, the mistake is people Favouring it, which is going to happen with stuff regardless, I can see now from jobs there is a few things that will be mandatory and favoured (brd must have thm up! XD)
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Its not a mistake though, the mistake is people Favouring it, which is going to happen with stuff regardless, I can see now from jobs there is a few things that will be mandatory and favoured (brd must have thm up! XD)

    I'm too jaded from people making me sub nin on DRG and MNK in XI. I think we'll just have to disagree and agree that we have differing points of opinion on where the fault lies. For me its balance, and for you its a community issue.

    As far as bard goes, I fraking LOVE having a buffer in my pt, but yea go go thm skills?
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