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    Quote Originally Posted by EaraGrace View Post
    Why wouldn’t they though? The only prerequisite is being able to perceive Hydaelyns call. If the Resonance is capable of giving one the same abilities as the echo, it stands to reason that it would also impart that particular capability as well. After all, it would be odd to me if you could have the ability to understood peoples intentions and see their memories but not hear Hydaelyn. That would make it an exception without justification no?
    Because there has been nothing to indicate that artificial Echo-users also gained the Blessing of Light, as even other individuals like Krile and Arenvald, who don’t have Crystals of Light empowering their Blessings have still been mentioned as having it.
    And the artificial-Echo isn’t awoken like the natural Echo is, so it stands to reason that artificial Echo-users never pick up on the broadcast Hydaelyn sends out (that grants Echo users the Blessing of Light once they hear Hydaelyn’s call).

    The process of awakening the Echo naturally seems to be the key moment when Hydaelyn’s broadcast grant the individuals the Blessing of Light. And sundered Ascians like Igeyorhm, who we know also had the Echo, almost assuredly gained their Echo (presumably they gain it when they are “raised to their office”) without receiving Hydaelyn’s Blessing of Light, so I think that’s stands reason only the traditional Echo awakening process allows for Hydaelyn to grant people the Blessing of Light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theozilla View Post
    Because there has been nothing to indicate that artificial Echo-users also gained the Blessing of Light, as even other individuals like Krile and Arenvald, who don’t have Crystals of Light empowering their Blessings have still been mentioned as having it.
    And the artificial-Echo isn’t awoken like the natural Echo is, so it stands to reason that artificial Echo-users never pick up on the broadcast Hydaelyn sends out (that grants Echo users the Blessing of Light once they hear Hydaelyn’s call).

    The process of awakening the Echo naturally seems to be the key moment when Hydaelyn’s broadcast grant the individuals the Blessing of Light. And sundered Ascians like Igeyorhm, who we know also had the Echo, almost assuredly gained their Echo (presumably they gain it when they are “raised to their office”) without receiving Hydaelyn’s Blessing of Light, so I think that’s stands reason only the traditional Echo awakening process allows for Hydaelyn to grant people the Blessing of Light.
    If the resonance is capable of resembling the echo so closely as to grant a sundered like Zenos the same powers as an Unsundered, then I don’t see why it wouldn’t allow you to hear Hydaelyns call.

    And I think you’re conflating having a crystal of light with having the blessing of light. The only people confirmed to possess a crystal are ourselves, and the WoD from my understanding. There’s nothing that says they are one and the same and given the fact we still remained immune to primal influence after being stripped of the crystals in Heavensward, I’d say separating the two is necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaraGrace View Post
    If the resonance is capable of resembling the echo so closely as to grant a sundered like Zenos the same powers as an Unsundered, then I don’t see why it wouldn’t allow you to hear Hydaelyns call.

    And I think you’re conflating having a crystal of light with having the blessing of light. The only people confirmed to possess a crystal are ourselves, and the WoD from my understanding. There’s nothing that says they are one and the same and given the fact we still remained immune to primal influence after being stripped of the crystals in Heavensward, I’d say separating the two is necessary.
    I think you may have partially misunderstood/misread what I was saying, I agree that having a Crystal of Light isn't a requirement for having the Blessing of Light, I literally have said multiple times that the Crystals of Light just power up the Blessing of Light (Besides the WoL and Ardbert and his companions, Ysayle also had a Crystal of Light, and Matoya possesses one that was created/generated from a much older Astral Era). I was specifically referencing characters, like Krile and Arenvald, who *don't* have Crystals of Light but do explicitly have the Blessing of Light, in comparison.

    As the for the artificial-Echo/Resonance being powerful enough to allow Zenos to have abilities on par with an Unsundered Ascian, that's not really relevant to my point. As the power of the Echo isn't what determines whether one has the ability to hear Hydaelyn's call/be granted the Blessing of Light, as the Ascians (unsundered and sundered) have the Echo and are extremely powerful in it, but they obviously don't have the Blessing of Light.

    That to me infers that it's the method/process of awakening the Echo, is a key factor as to whether one hears Hydaelyn's perpetual call and receives the Blessing of Light. And I do not think the process of receiving the artificial-Echo/Resonance gives users the Blessing of Light as well, similar to sundered Ascians who awaken to their Echo.
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