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    Quote Originally Posted by Hysorn View Post
    About the Azem part, the Hythlodaeus mentions that Azem himself(or herself) would go along with it. Likewise, with the stuff happening to Elidibus in the cutscene where we return to the past, it seems that Azem is aware of you doing Azem stuff and is totally on board with it.
    They also seem to imply that the current Azem at that time had an unusual personality that essentially labeled them as sort of an oddball due to whimsical things they would do for their own amusement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    They also seem to imply that the current Azem at that time had an unusual personality that essentially labeled them as sort of an oddball due to whimsical things they would do for their own amusement.
    Which makes me wonder if one of our shards hasn't inherited this aspect of our old complete soul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hysorn View Post
    Which makes me wonder if one of our shards hasn't inherited this aspect of our old complete soul.
    We can see from Ardbert that personality traits of the soul do persist. His path to becoming a WoL isn't too different to ours. It's clear that the drive to seek adventure, roam new lands and help people along the way are things that define who our soul is. Later we find out that these traits are part of what makes a person suitable for the seat of Azem.

    We can also see it in Hermes. As both Hermes and Amon he became very disenchanted with the idea of having great power yet being unable to achieve what he thought was true happiness which lead to a depression that lead to nihilism. As both people he introduced an entity that lead to ruin in his attempt to feel fulfilment - Hermes made Meteion and Amon resurrected Xande. Hermes appears to be a person who is doomed to lose his way if left to his own devices. Also as both people he became a highly respected scientist who excelled in creating new lifeforms.

    Y'shtola sees similarities between Beq Lugg and Matoya. Though them being shards of the same soul is at most speculation as it has never been and may never be confirmed. But from this we can see that the idea that personality traits being part of the soul is something even characters in the game consider to be a strong possibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hysorn View Post
    Which makes me wonder if one of our shards hasn't inherited this aspect of our old complete soul.
    It'll probably the one lost on the 13th that is now going from shard to shard absorbing each of our remaining fragments and will be the BBEG of the next story now that the Hydaelyn vs Zodiark saga is over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    It'll probably the one lost on the 13th that is now going from shard to shard absorbing each of our remaining fragments and will be the BBEG of the next story now that the Hydaelyn vs Zodiark saga is over.
    Honestly, I'm half-expecting that Zenos' avatar is that shard and that it's going to come after us using his body now that he's probably actually dead.

    I don't think Yoshi would've hint-hinted at the thing being important if it wasn't going to become a problem in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Honestly, I'm half-expecting that Zenos' avatar is that shard and that it's going to come after us using his body now that he's probably actually dead.

    I don't think Yoshi would've hint-hinted at the thing being important if it wasn't going to become a problem in the future.
    Please, PLEASE, let Zenos and his body be gone forever this time. If his Avatar was our Fragment from the 13th and is going to possess his body to come after us, I fully expect Zenos to just ex machina his way back as well and I just want the dude gone at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    Please, PLEASE, let Zenos and his body be gone forever this time. If his Avatar was our Fragment from the 13th and is going to possess his body to come after us, I fully expect Zenos to just ex machina his way back as well and I just want the dude gone at this point.
    Nah, them leaving his corpse at the edge of the universe after the big climactic fight they were hyping up for 1.5 expansions was about as 'you're never going to see him again' as it could possibly get, unless he gets Dynamis'd back and reinitiates the Final Days just to get the WoL to come back.

    Even then, his last words to the WoL did have a feeling of finality to them. I think Zenos' arc is complete.


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