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    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    The fact you've asked this question previously and the fact you ask it once again is almost baffling. There is no excuse here, but as I have told you, if you think this is new or even exclusive to this expansion then you haven't done your research since this is present as early as Heavensward (Most especially games within the same franchise), and aside from this? I don't know? Maybe the lead composer having health issues. Also FYI assuming we're referring to the same thing, that particular theme is actually the Primals Remix as opposed to being an outright reuse.

    You thought you were clever with this one - But in reality it's a poorly made argument. 'lmao'
    Uh oh someone’s getting tilted. When did they reuse an expert dungeon theme in HW? But even disregarding that using an earlier expansion as proof isn’t a very good argument. Again we should be seeing improvements on these things. They should have a backup composer, that’s kind of part of the hiring procedure they shouldn’t have everything relying on him. You’ve had a lot of poorly made arguments in this thread but you’re entitled to them as anyone else is. The fact you’re still constantly responding to me is almost baffling. I didn’t think i was clever, i was simply pointing out an objective fact. It’s lazy, especially after all the money the players have made for the game. We get rewarded with the most gear reuse out of any expansion and an expert dungeon theme reuse. I’m going to keep mentioning it yes because people shouldn’t be quieted down about criticism, it needs to be brought to their attention and this is what the forums are for no? I understand it may be the norm for you and a majority of the community to gulp down everything the devs try and feed you but not everyone follows that philosophy. You do you though Merry christmas!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    snip.
    I would consider it a fairly natural thing, I took my time responding to that comment for you to graciously ignore it, and then subsequently ask it again, by definition wasting my time. I'm not talking about exclusively reused in expert dungeons but rather throughout the game itself. But hey I will just bring up Calcabrina's theme for you, in addition to the theme used for Doma - Let me just elaborate and expand that we should be seeing an increase in content or at the very least a general increase throughout the course of the expansion, not where you just deem fit to use your yardstick and cherry pick content areas to use to try and create a narrative that the developers are lazy. instead of trying to present the question of why, you practically almost immediately took the troupe of exclaiming they're lazy, despite yourself probably not even being in the development or project management field, but this aside, I don't think you or anyone (myself included) is fit to throw around this accusation until the entire of the expansion has concluded (including patches which introduce further content). But like I said with regards to the particular theme, it was actually the Primals arrangement and not the same from the original encounter. Not only that it appropriately fit the dungeon. You don't needlessly reinvent the wheel when something wholly appropriate has already been created for it. I mean and Omega theme, used in a dungeon which essentially encompassed the Omicrons.. Who'd a thought, such a tyranny.

    I'm hardly trying to silence your criticism, in fact I actually agree that it's a valid criticism, I just question the conclusion that you so gleefully arrived at in that you're chalking it up to lazy, money hungry piggies, as opposed to simply asking if those resources are going to be focussed elsewhere in the expansions development going forward. In fact no my arguments have just been terribly interpreted evidently. But hey, opinions and all.

    There's a certain level of irony in that you seem to feel you can throw criticism around, yet not be open to simple fact that not many people share your criticisms of the game, or at the very least view them to be very mundane in the grand scope of things. As per another thread, which applies quite heavily in this case.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Or people just have different ideals and feedback on what would constitute as bettering the game. It's almost like.. A difference in opinion/outlook.
    You know, quite like the purpose with which a forum is designed for debating, both in agreement, or disagreement. This doesn't apply word-for-word, but me not sharing the self-same criticism as you does not equate to me simply gulping down whatever the developers feed me. Contrary to how people might use this in attempt to deflect a disagreement in their outlook or philosophy. I just simply have the mindset that they're electing to use these 'cut' efforts elsewhere within the development of the game.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 12-25-2021 at 01:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Contrary to how people might use this in attempt to deflect a disagreement in their outlook or philosophy. I just simply have the mindset that they're electing to use these 'cut' efforts elsewhere within the development of the game.
    Oh cool! So, are we getting more zones? Oh nope, it's still 6?
    More trials? Oh....guess not.
    Maybe an extra alliance raid? Hmmmm, don't think so.
    Perhaps we're getting a few more dungeons! Darn, that's right those got cut to one a patch and they don't even have unique gear most of the time.
    Well, surely they're overhauling some systems like housing or inventory/glam. What? They're not doing that either?

    You get my point. The cuts aren't resulting in new content. As far as actually new content that breaks with the formula what are we getting this xpac? Island Sanctuary? It'd better be amazing and not like just a week-long diversion like BLU then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrogDog View Post
    Oh cool! So, are we getting more zones? Oh nope, it's still 6?
    More trials? Oh....guess not.
    Maybe an extra alliance raid? Hmmmm, don't think so.
    Perhaps we're getting a few more dungeons! Darn, that's right those got cut to one a patch and they don't even have unique gear most of the time.
    Well, surely they're overhauling some systems like housing or inventory/glam. What? They're not doing that either?

    You get my point. The cuts aren't resulting in new content. As far as actually new content that breaks with the formula what are we getting this xpac? Island Sanctuary? It'd better be amazing and not like just a week-long diversion like BLU then.
    I like how you elected to ignore the simple fact of:
    - Ishgard Restoration (Which saw the emergence of an 'expert' system & several unique glamours)
    - Ocean Fishing
    - Non-combat relics
    - Large scale raid encounter (which also included a normal and savage difficulty)
    - Dalriada, and Castrum Lacus Litore
    - Mahjong
    - Crafter/Gatherer overhaul
    - Additions to the Performance system
    - Additions to BLU which at least saw encouragement in actually utilising it for older raids
    - Introduction of Faux Hollows

    Don't be intentionally ignorant on the content that was added. Sorry but no I don't get your point.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 12-25-2021 at 01:45 PM.

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