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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    I was under the impression the the “Blessing” was only something the WoL had so I’m confused where that leaves Krile, Fordola, Zenos, Misija, Arenvald, Ysayle, Unukulhai, and Mikoto, who all have been shown to be immune to tempering.
    Originally, I thought the same, but the blessing of Light is directly credited for the divine intervention projected through Krile's crystal when she survives Val, so I had to adjust, lol. The thing that belongs only to the Warrior of Light (THE Warrior of Light, not A Warrior of Light) is what I call the "champion factor". Hydaelyn's one chosen champion who Midgardsormr is sworn to aid. It looks like other people receive the effects of the blessing of Light at times.

    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    I think it creates small pocket of problems during HW's ravana's arc, but since we started regaining the blessing and we had 1/6 I think they'll just say that the ward was at a fraction of it's power. There might else that I'm missing but I'm not remembering atm
    In terms of where their heads were at at the time, yeah I think that does create a bit of a SEEMING contradiction.

    I think I can work around it, though.

    Midgardsormr darkened the crystals of Light and prevented the Warrior of Light from receiving the divine intervention that cost Hydaelyn so dearly. Midgardsormr claimed we were draining Her dry to pretend to be a hero, and didn't admit his mistake until much later. Nobody cared if we fought primals because we still had the Echo, which they thought was what protected us. But it looks like even though we couldn't receive Hydaelyn's aid, we simply didn't lose the Traveler's Ward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    Originally, I thought the same, but the blessing of Light is directly credited for the divine intervention projected through Krile's crystal when she survives Val, so I had to adjust, lol. The thing that belongs only to the Warrior of Light (THE Warrior of Light, not A Warrior of Light) is what I call the "champion factor". Hydaelyn's one chosen champion who Midgardsormr is sworn to aid. It looks like other people receive the effects of the blessing of Light at times.
    That would explain Krile, and could explain Misija, Zenos, and Fordola if we decided to stretch it, but I don't remember seeing Arenvald and the others with any crystals. Mikoto, Unukulhai, and Arenvald all are present at summonings and immune to thralldom. And Ysayle is able to control Shiva through the Echo, not the Blessing. Zenos attributes the immunity to tempering to the Echo and says that it's stronger than that and goes into being able to control as well. He could obviously be wrong, but what is even the point of that exposition if they're going to reverse it later on?

    The whole thing just doesn't make sense to me why they changed it for Endwalker because in the end, there's nothing specific about the protection being attributed to the Blessing that changes the story following the change except that 1 line of exposition when Venat says that it's a "traveler's ward". To open up so many retroactive plot holes for one throwaway line is baffling. When I was playing through the MSQ I just got the impression that the writers themselves weren't paying attention and forgot what was attributed to the Echo and what was the Blessing and oopsed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    That would explain Krile, and could explain Misija, Zenos, and Fordola if we decided to stretch it, but I don't remember seeing Arenvald and the others with any crystals. Mikoto, Unukulhai, and Arenvald all are present at summonings and immune to thralldom.
    That was my biggest issue and question too. Swapping temper protection from the Echo to the Blessing doesn't affect the WoL, but it sure as hell messes things up for people like Arenvald, Fordola, Mikoto, etc.
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