Ninja needs Help.

[miqou]

Phantom-Kamaitachi:
Replaces Hotkey of Bunshin after Bunshin is used.

Yes, please.

Abilities like that, that are dependand of each other should be combined to one button.
With 6.0 SE actually did just that with SCHs "Summon Seraph" and "Consolation" and that plays very nicely now. Same should also be applied to Monks Perfect Balance and Masterful Blitz...

For me as a Controller Player the button bloat can be more apparent. While I hardly have any issues with that for most jobs, the problem for me with NIN comes from the fast gameplay and weaving skills. Having to quickly go back and forth from the double tap Hotbars can actually be painful over a long period of time.
Combining Bunshin and Phantom-Kamaitachi would already be an immense help.

Please don't force Raiju on Ninjutsu, the only thing keeping it from being more garbage is the fact we can delay it with mudras. Having the separate button is a boon in this case just to avoid fat-finger situations as well as programming conflicts.

Of course you would still be able to perform other Mudras and their Ninjutsu. Raiju would just replace Ninjutsu while no other Mudras are cast.

Other than that I can't say much about Raiju as I'm not quite there yet. But I do see where Arohk is coming from. As Ninjutsu would just sit there using up space most of the time.

[Arohk]

Yes, please.

They did the same for Gunbreaker, it used up 3 keybinds for its combo chain, but now only needs one. Same for paladin on 90, imagine if that would require 3 Seperate hotkeys for each attack after confiteor.
Solving the problem of where to put all the skills on your hotbar shouldn't be a thing that makes the game more difficult, i am not playing a piano after all.
All skills that depend on another skill to be used should just replace each other for a smoother playing experience, scholar is a good example, Energy Drain should go into Aether Flow after its used.

[Kolsykol]

They did the same for Gunbreaker, it used up 3 keybinds for its combo chain, but now only needs one. Same for paladin on 90, imagine if that would require 3 Seperate hotkeys for each attack after confiteor.
Solving the problem of where to put all the skills on your hotbar shouldn't be a thing that makes the game more difficult, i am not playing a piano after all.
All skills that depend on another skill to be used should just replace each other for a smoother playing experience, scholar is a good example, Energy Drain should go into Aether Flow after its used.

The difference is that the Gnashing Fang combo is one ability while Bunshin and Phantom-Kamaitachi aren't.
Both from a technical and just gameplay pov I don't think it's the same at all.

[Quyn]

Look for the ffxiv combo plugin on google. Lets you combine all kinds of keys, including bunshin kamatachi.

[Equitable_Remedy]

Look for the ffxiv combo plugin on google. Lets you combine all kinds of keys, including bunshin kamatachi.

[godvivec]

This forum definitely needed another NIN whine thread.

Compared to what? A "Square this class is perfect don't change anything!" post? That's useless crap on a forums dedicated to discussing classes. If ninja has 100+ threads on it's problems, that just means it has a LOT of problems.

[Quyn]

Stop being such a gate keeper all the time. Why is it that you are in every Ninja related thread, trying to quell fellow players concern, based on your anecdotes.
Most Ninja players dont like the changes since they alter the class playstyle too drastically with the introduced inflexibility.
You can get used to driving a car with broken steering. Doesnt mean you should want to.

[Arohk]

Oh wow great, now both Raiju need an extra button, this going all the wrong direction.
I dont think i want to play ninja anymore now, its just too bloated.

[Kolsykol]

Oh wow great, now both Raiju need an extra button, this going all the wrong direction.
I dont think i want to play ninja anymore now, its just too bloated.

I mean you got one free with the Bunshin change.

I don't like the change personally but what you're saying here is a non-issue.

[SkylineSenpai]

Yeah, breaking up the Raiju combo and button switch is all wrong.