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    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Wing View Post
    I wish they wouldn't have used that word...I get flashbacks of Dynamis raiding nights from FFXI.... nothing more infuriating than getting the group all setup and another group comes in, sniping the zone from you and locking you out of the zone your group was going to farm for relic armor and currency for the sponsor who paid for the entry.
    *shudders* I used to write up the Dynamis schedule for Seraph server on the ZAM forums, to prevent that from happening. And a new group would form and try to farm Xarcabard every raid night and we had to say, "You can't do that. There are four other raid groups that are already doing the same time slot, and they would like to farm Xarc and Beaucedine at least once a month too, you know?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
    *shudders* I used to write up the Dynamis schedule for Seraph server on the ZAM forums, to prevent that from happening. And a new group would form and try to farm Xarcabard every raid night and we had to say, "You can't do that. There are four other raid groups that are already doing the same time slot, and they would like to farm Xarc and Beaucedine at least once a month too, you know?"
    Are you weirded out that we're fighting the PANDAEMONIUM WARDEN too?
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    I think it's intended to point toward a few things:

    1) Sun/Moon duality. We see that played with a lot in this expansion. We go to the moon, but we as Azem are the sun. The two jobs also have loose references to the sun and moon: Sage has Icarus and an LB3 that looks like sunbeams; Reaper has Harvest Moon and Waxing Slice.

    2) Pointing toward alchemy and the pursuit of perfection. This is definitely a very "alchemy" themed expansion. We have an entire zone dedicated to creation magic. It is headed by Hermes, presumably a reference to the Hermetic Order. We see themes of perfectionism in Sharlayan (Fourchenault), Garlemald (Quintus), and even some discussions about it in Ultima Thule. Sage is also basically our alchemist job. I admit I don't quite know what platinum specifically has to do with the pursuit of perfection, but the alchemical signaling is very striking.

    3) Yoshi-P's own interpretation of platinum as containing a "flash of gold". We see this visualized a couple of times in EW, but I think it makes a lot more sense when combined with his other theming pattern. The previous expansions were representing the sky at various parts of the day, and EW is supposed to be "A New Dawn" after "The Blackest Night". The logo and title screen seem to combine these two motifs where we see the glint of the sun peeping from behind the moon. I think in a more abstract sense Yoshi-P intends "platinum" and that "flash of gold" to suggest that hint of light at the end of the story, a visual representation for the hope of a new day. And since the whole point of Endwalker is finding hope in a hopeless world, I think that is very fitting imagery.

    So, in summary, I think platinum makes enough sense for this expansion because it hits on EW's heavy alchemy and celestial themes, as well as serves as a nice embodiment of its themes of duality, perfectionism, hope, and one's ability to create their own purpose.
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    For me, I thought Meteion was the platinum theme when she and her sisters were depressed they looked gray/black metal themed , even the blasphemies when they die they leave a black/gray haze thing. So I thought that was the theme the depressing idea of the final days which when we change Meteion's mind she gets her colors back. I don't know about the alchemy theme of sun and moon representing platinum, it just seems too far stretched for me. Again those were my thoughts I could be way wrong , we will know from yoshida himself hopefully soon.
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    I mean, it's not like BLUE (Heavensward) and CRIMSON (Stormblood) meant all that much either.
    Aymeric and Lyse dress in them; and we do a lot in the skies / there's (allegedly) a lot of blood.
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    I think y'all are reading way too much into it.

    Platinum is a very interesting color/element. The rusty texture adds shades of black beside the silverish surface. Black and white. Dark and light.

    I think it was implying that the Hydaelyn/Zodiark arc only existed as a basis or foundation for something beyond (they were literally created to serve one purpose), in the case of platinum, light and dark coming together to give rise to something made of both, but different. Which implied Endwalker's endboss would be something beyond Hydaelyn or Zodiark, and a new "foundation" made of both - which turned out to be dynamis. Dynamis being the realm of emotion is made of both extremes of light and dark. Meteion herself turned platinum multiple times, and she regains her color at the end.

    The endboss being other than Zodiark is kind of spoilerish which is why Yoshi-P was so hesitant on the live letter when he mentioned platinum and insisted "I already said way too much."

    Least that's my take on it.
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