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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Knowing that the good guys will win is very different to knowing that the good guys will likely soon be tempered by an elder primal, suffer the destruction of their entire civilisation and possibly spend the next several millennia being very awful people.
    It's been stated repeatedly both in and out of the game itself that it is all a matter of perspective and isn't a case of 'good guys' and 'bad guys'. Furthermore victory for one side in a conflict generally results in heavy losses for the other, often through circumstances outside of their control.

    More often than not, some people seem to simply expect certain characters and factions to just roll over and die out...which doesn't strike me as a reasonable resolution. It's admirable for anyone to do whatever it takes to protect their loved ones, though that goes both ways - not just when the Scions screech and drool about 'hope' and how much they want to go on an adventure and see a 'bEtTeR tOmOrRoW'.

    Back in Shadowbringers, the Scions already admitted that if they were in Emet-Selch's position then they would do the same thing that he was doing. Which, again, is understandable - why wouldn't the Sundered do everything possible in order to survive and preserve their kind? However, again, it makes perfect sense for the Unsundered to have the same goal and desires.
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    Damien Rael
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    Well time travel... but I feel you, it's really sad. The ancients treat the wol really nice and you really begin to like them but in the real time/world they all dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
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    Seriously? I wasn't making any deep comment on morality there.

    Person A said they didn't like this story spending time being friends with people we knew would go on to have a tragic end.

    Person B compared it to knowing the "good guys" (a concept generally considered synonymous to "the protagonists") would win at the end of the movie.

    I said it's more like knowing the "good guys" (again, the protagonists we are spending time and being friends with) are going to lose and have horrible things happen to them. That's the dread we're feeling about this, and it's nothing like knowing they'll win.

    I'm not making some kind of grand judgement on them. Just using the same terms someone else already used.
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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Seriously? I wasn't making any deep comment on morality there.

    Person A said they didn't like this story spending time being friends with people we knew would go on to have a tragic end.

    Person B compared it to knowing the "good guys" (a concept generally considered synonymous to "the protagonists") would win at the end of the movie.

    I said it's more like knowing the "good guys" (again, the protagonists we are spending time and being friends with) are going to lose and have horrible things happen to them. That's the dread we're feeling about this, and it's nothing like knowing they'll win.

    I'm not making some kind of grand judgement on them. Just using the same terms someone else already used.
    Fair enough! I'm glad to see that we're on the same page.
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